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Danzig 10-29-2008 12:40 PM

i believe it has already been raised, and will go up again next year. problem is, the national min wage isn't really fair-it should be based on area-i doubt someone in l.a. can survive on the same wage as someone here in arkansas.

Mortimer 10-29-2008 12:43 PM

For what it's worth, and not too much I would think...I feel like the min. wage is a good thing.

FGFan 10-29-2008 02:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by geeker2
:mad:

What I meant was ..

The reason I didn't remove it was..



Oh nevermind....





Doo-Dah trying to look like you huh?

I am jealous...she has never put a pu$$y as her avatar! :mad:

Well have you looked at mine...... :p

Top feline predator.....:D

btw good pic of geeker, better than his day after the BC...poor kitty.

FGFan 10-29-2008 02:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:rolleyes:


Don't make me make an attempt to be the number one Predator. :mad: :mad:

Yes Hossy I think it's time to put that grizzly bear back up there!!!

geeker2 10-29-2008 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by FGFan
Well have you looked at mine...... :p

Top feline predator.....:D

btw good pic of geeker, better than his day after the BC...poor kitty.


:{>: I just took it

dalakhani 10-29-2008 04:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
For what it's worth, and not too much I would think...I feel like the min. wage is a good thing.

We agree again. It is a good thing.

Mortimer 10-29-2008 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
We agree again. It is a good thing.

Good...I'd much rather hold hands with you than argue.




You were upsetting me in the James thread...and I feel wounded about that reaction to you-----the world isn't right that way.


Now I have to go home.









Oh.



I am home.

geeker2 10-29-2008 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Good...I'd much rather hold hands with you than argue.




You were upsetting me in the James thread...and I feel wounded about that reaction to you-----the world isn't right that way.


Now I have to go home.




Oh.



I am home.

Ok.... now try for the nudie picts..I think you are in!

Mortimer 10-29-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2
Ok.... now try for the nudie picts..I think you are in!

I don't think the time is quite right,Geeker.





Of course...I have found it never is around here.



But oh well.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2008 04:45 PM

The minimum wage is supposed to be the very least people can survive on. If you don't raise it to make up for the increased cost of living, then you're really reducing someone's salary. If you want to keep down the minimum wage, then you're really saying you want to reduce the real salary of the least paid workers. That's why most Republicans want to keep the minimum wage down. They want to form a 2 class society. That's exactly what keeping the minimum wage low does. They sell it as a way to provide more jobs. Yes, a lot of bad paying jobs. They sell it by saying a bad job is better than no job. Do it their way, and you will have just a 2 class society. Everything they preach (including wanting a static minimum wage) is a recipe for making a 2 class society. That's why the words increase and raised are used when really it's just an adjustment for an increased cost of living. Are they really giving people an actual raise in their standard of living? No. You're allowing them to keep up. Republicans want them to fall behind. They think they deserve to fall behind. That's what they are saying when they want to keep it static.

Mortimer 10-29-2008 04:49 PM

God.

Now I am going ho....to another room.


He's going to comment on me now---you watch.

SCUDSBROTHER 10-29-2008 04:52 PM

There's that guy again. White on rice n' gray on mice.

Mortimer 10-29-2008 05:07 PM

:)

OK,SM.....now say...''I am a fat moo cow."


And then say----moo.

hi_im_god 10-29-2008 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by SCUDSBROTHER
The minimum wage is supposed to be the very least people can survive on. If you don't raise it to make up for the increased cost of living, then you're really reducing someone's salary. If you want to keep down the minimum wage, then you're really saying you want to reduce the real salary of the least paid workers. That's why most Republicans want to keep the minimum wage down. They want to form a 2 class society. That's exactly what keeping the minimum wage low does. They sell it as a way to provide more jobs. Yes, a lot of bad paying jobs. They sell it by saying a bad job is better than no job. Do it their way, and you will have just a 2 class society. Everything they preach (including wanting a static minimum wage) is a recipe for making a 2 class society. That's why the words increase and raised are used when really it's just an adjustment for an increased cost of living. Are they really giving people an actual raise in their standard of living? No. You're allowing them to keep up. Republicans want them to fall behind. They think they deserve to fall behind. That's what they are saying when they want to keep it static.

there is a long standing (i.e. decades long) and broad consensus among economists that minimum wage laws hurt the very people they are supposed to help by distorting the labor market.

alternates like the earned income credit and general welfare accomplish what you think minimum wage is supposed to do without causing a loss of available jobs.

minimum wage doesn't just prevent employer's from buying labor at a market price. it stops people from selling their labor at a rate where they could get a job, learn a skill, and find better employment with their experience.

i mean, screw a living wage. if minimum wage actually works to an employee's benefit, why don't we just raise it to $250/hour and we can all be rich.

Mortimer 10-29-2008 09:01 PM

That is so unfair.

I'm quite disappointed in you.

hi_im_god 10-29-2008 09:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
That is so unfair.

I'm quite disappointed in you.

okay. $350/hour.

Mortimer 10-29-2008 09:18 PM

Time and a half over 40.

Really,though....and I'm not a dem nor rep nor libertarian nor independent......ah just is.....but I think antagonists get carried away with min. wage.

hi_im_god 10-29-2008 09:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Time and a half over 40.

Really,though....and I'm not a dem nor rep nor libertarian nor independent......ah just is.....but I think antagonists get carried away with min. wage.

it's here to stay regardless.

but if you can imagine what would happen to jobs at a $250/hr minimum wage, is it that hard to think there might be one or two less positions available at $10/hour?

that's the economic argument. i'm not hard headed or hearted. but i think the idea a minimum wage helps the poor is flawed.

Mortimer 10-29-2008 09:39 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
it's here to stay regardless.

but if you can imagine what would happen to jobs at a $250/hr minimum wage, is it that hard to think there might be one or two less positions available at $10/hour?

that's the economic argument. i'm not hard headed or hearted. but i think the idea a minimum wage helps the poor is flawed.

I guess I'm not seeing what you mean.

You are smarter than me and I'm not being a wise guy ...so can you say it a different way?


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