Originally Posted by steve

who was charles ketting and what is john mccain's relationship to him...or maybe his top advisers role with freddie mac!

Originally Posted by MaTH716

That's fair, I was just curious what some Obama supporters thought about the alledged relationships.
As far as your questions goes. Of course I don't think he is a terrorist. As far as the republicans bringing it up now, of course it is a desperation play. It is very late in the game to be playing the muck game. But really what does McCain have to lose? I can't believe that it has taken so long to bring this up. I would have thought that Hilary would have touched on the subject a long time ago. Maybe it really is a non issue, or the media would have been all over right? Or is it just the liberal press. I think it is a little of both.
Bottom line is that people want a change. They see McCain being a republican and link him to GW (Obama has done a good job constantly linking the two). Obviously it is Obama's race to lose, but stranger things have happened and nothing would suprise me when Washington is involved.

Originally Posted by MaTH716

That's fair, I was just curious what some Obama supporters thought about the alledged relationships.
As far as your questions goes. Of course I don't think he is a terrorist. As far as the republicans bringing it up now, of course it is a desperation play. It is very late in the game to be playing the muck game. But really what does McCain have to lose? I can't believe that it has taken so long to bring this up. I would have thought that Hilary would have touched on the subject a long time ago. Maybe it really is a non issue, or the media would have been all over right? Or is it just the liberal press. I think it is a little of both.
Bottom line is that people want a change. They see McCain being a republican and link him to GW (Obama has done a good job constantly linking the two). Obviously it is Obama's race to lose, but stranger things have happened and nothing would suprise me when Washington is involved.

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

it's a ploy that appeals to the unemployed, inebriated, wife beating, couch potato republican base which may be concerned about obama's judgement.

looking at other posts here, it's working.

Originally Posted by prudery

Just as an irrelevant aside on those sixties...

During the revolt/revolution/liberation heady days of the sixties, for some, it was like joining a club ...

--Only this club went against all most people's parents were for, and many traditions ...like sex outside the office and highly stimulating dope rather than sissy scotch.

It was new, exciting, full of questions, and MUCH beneficial came out of it, some of which we enjoy today ...like sex outside the office and highly stimulating dope rather then sissy scotch.

Though I shared a belief for change and improvement, and also LOVED sex outside the office, I did not join those clubs, though I LOVE sex outside the office,many people I knew did ...

I never bought into a violent revolution, but some did---as in the Chicago 7 and Bill Hartack.

My boyfriend at the time, was a plummah, ne'er-do-well and successful conscientious objecter when it suited him. He never objected to sex outside the office. .... Somewhat later he became a Government Witness, and now he is on the run from LCN....

My association with him reflects none of the above ( ?? )... And my current association with him is based on who he is today---a nice, bald, fat dumbazz on the run. Good riddance to him. ...

I would suspect many of the Club revolutionaries and hippies I knew would be singularly embarrassed by their previous
Krishna-Krishna, Hari Rum Na's ... The ex is not---he is somewhat the same guy, but with different values ......ie....he doesn't have any.....

I am confounded by Ayers' contemporary comments, but I feel that if he were a current threat to society, he would have been shot ...

Obama's associations with him were in today's educational arena working under the Annenberg umbrella under which there are Republican connections as well......oh ah dunno

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Originally Posted by Mortimer

wok good


stop yelling at me


My uncle said he was swine...but that's just him.

Originally Posted by hi_im_god

it's a ploy that appeals to the unemployed, inebriated, wife beating, couch potato republican base which may be concerned about obama's judgement.

looking at other posts here, it's working.

Originally Posted by timmgirvan

Prosecutors in the Keating 5 scandal cleared McCain of any impropriety long ago....but it makes for good headlines. However, 3 of the guilty ones are serving on Nobamas' presidential staff!

Originally Posted by ateamstupid

No.

His 'relationship' with Ayers wasn't much of a relationship at all, and honestly, spare me all the outrage over a 'racist minister'. Pat Robertson and Jerry Falwell have said things very similar to what Jeremiah Wright said (America deserving 9/11), and I don't see anyone screaming 'kill him!' about McCain for associating with those two nutbags.

Big ****ing deal there's a black pastor who has resentment towards white people that Obama knows. I love how this white racism at McCain rallies is glanced over, but there's a black guy who doesn't like white people (one who Obama denounced) and everybody loses their ****. Get a grip. If you really think, after the guy has been campaigning for two years, that Obama secretly hates white people and loves domestic terrorism, you're a moron. Sorry, but you are.

It's one thing to decry his lack of experience or say he hasn't proven himself yet, but these insinuations that he's some Manchurian candidate secretly bent on turning America upside down the moment he gets into office are so absurd and batshit crazy, I can't believe I just typed three paragraphs in response to them.

Originally Posted by prudery

The tongue is an unruly member, but silence poisons the soul ...

Sweet nothings ...

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Thank you.

I am SSSSo gone.

Originally Posted by Mortimer

Is the "K" silent in knish?

Originally Posted by prudery

Not where I come from ... NY ...

The other missive I will address after I finally get sustenance ...

Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Joey, racism is racism - I don't care what color you are. I don't understand how you can make excuses for Obama's obvious dislike of whites. Some quotes from his book, Dreams From My Father:

"I ceased to advertise my mother's race at the age of 12 or 13, when I began to suspect that by doing so I was ingratiating myself to whites."

"There was something about him that made me wary, a little too sure of himself, maybe. And white."

"It remained necessary to prove which side you were on, to show your loyalty to the black masses, to strike out and name names."

"I never emulate white men and brown men whose fates didn't speak to my own. It was into my father's image, the black man, son of Africa, that I'd packed all the attributes I sought in myself, the attributes of Martin and Malcolm, Dubois and Mandela."

These are real quotes from his book. I guess it's a matter of opinion as to what he really meant while writing it, but I was insulted when I read it myself. Sorry, but I don't like racism on ANY front.