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SentToStud 08-29-2008 03:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
I was there, no one knows anything.

Depends who you hang with?

Cannon Shell 08-29-2008 03:09 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Depends who you hang with?

Yeah i only hang with the high and mighty...
Actually it was the locals who told me of the chaos. Virtually everything in the govt there is screwed up. They let guys walk out of jail everyday because they cant get hearings in time because of so many paperwork problems. The hispanic population has risen dramatically as they move from Texas looking for the cash construction and cleanup jobs.

SentToStud 08-29-2008 03:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Yeah i only hang with the high and mighty...
Actually it was the locals who told me of the chaos. Virtually everything in the govt there is screwed up. They let guys walk out of jail everyday because they cant get hearings in time because of so many paperwork problems. The hispanic population has risen dramatically as they move from Texas looking for the cash construction and cleanup jobs.

You got to keep an eye on the hispanics. They are very chaotic.

Habersham000 08-29-2008 03:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Give me a break. You try to read through these laws and how to properly interpret them then give me your opinion. This isnt about people not being paid for their work, it is about the time schedule and the hours that are needed. It is too bad that taking care of horses is a job that takes considerable amounts of time and effort but no one drafted anyone into these positions. These guys make a lot more than they would doing something else that they are qualified to do (like washing dishes) and the immigrant workers flock to the track because the opportunity is much better than in the fields or in the restaurant business. And by the way you thoughts about paying them more and having them work harder is not only bunk it doesnt work, believe me i've tried.


If it takes long hours to take care of a horse then you should be paid for it...not stiffed on your hours....many people have jobs that take long hours but they get paid for every hour they work...I don't know what you or any other trainer pays their help but I would guess it is near minimum wage so they only reason they would make more money working with the horses versus washing dishes is they work more hours...their pay per hour rate would probably be similar.

Danzig 08-29-2008 05:10 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
What an absurd and wrong generalization. Just which group of people are you referring to when you say, "generations?"

The unemployment rate in greater New Orleans is 4.1%. Of similar size, or even larger size metro areas, the lowest is Oklahoma City at 4.0%.

Yeah, right.

http://hnn.us/articles/15163.html

Cannon Shell 08-29-2008 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Habersham000
If it takes long hours to take care of a horse then you should be paid for it...not stiffed on your hours....many people have jobs that take long hours but they get paid for every hour they work...I don't know what you or any other trainer pays their help but I would guess it is near minimum wage so they only reason they would make more money working with the horses versus washing dishes is they work more hours...their pay per hour rate would probably be similar.

Everyone who gets hired in my barn and most barns are fully aware of the hours, responsibilities and pay when they are hired. If they stay long enough they get bonuses, vacations and other perks like healthcare and a free place to live. Since I have been in business the pay scale has risen by at least 25% for grooms and hotwalkers and even more for exercise riders and assistants. What exactly should they do if they have a good horse and want to take care of them properly? Be mandated by the state to take a day off and let somebody else mess with them? Do you think Curlins groom wants someone else putting bandages on him?

Cannon Shell 08-29-2008 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
You got to keep an eye on the hispanics. They are very chaotic.

There are very few hispanics involved with the goverance of New Orleans...


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