I thought Andrew did.


But you could be right.

Actually..I think we have found Cratos.....again.

I think the perpetually bizarre all be moved to the San Antonio Bat Cave.

Having landed in this thread....Venusians signal back to the mother ship....there is no life on Earth.


Frogs...yes.

Humans...no.

1. Because his voting record and stances indicate intolerance towards democracy and what the United States means in imo.

And he said exactly what he felt. He did not attempt
to persuade or dissuade. He was asked numerous times on the record
after making some very intolerant statements if he wished to retract.
He wanted no retractions.

He was a senator for a very long time and the record is there for
anyone to see. I agree that racist is very over used. I have not used it.
I would say he shows a great deal of intolerance towards segments of
this Nation in a way exactly opposite of what I believe this country's
central tenets are.

And I dont think the conservative philosophy automatically implies racism
just like I dont think a liberal philosophy implies a mindless tendency to
spend money to relieve some false sense of guilt.

Dr. Whitherfork..I mean spoon...ought to have a look at this.

I have reread Phil's last statement.





I feel he has conflict buzzing around in his noodle.

It's deep...rooted in Ethel's :p propensity to keep straightening out wrinkled rugs.

I think he has a problem churning out in words what his mind wants him to say.


Is he a sissy?


Perhaps.


Does he watch too much tv sports?


Does a bee gather pollen?

The thread lacks words of whizzdom from BentMahPud.



It can never truly be a 5 starer until he projectile vomits here.

2hot4FayeBotoxAway could be an acceptable stand in.

become an expert:

http://www.fair.org/index.php?page=1871

OH MY GOD!!



NEGROES ....working BESIDE ME!!!?









THUD!

Do you know any more about him than I do? I've read plenty of the articles about him. I'm not an expert on him.

That article is one man's opinion. Does that particular publication have more credibility than newspapers like the Washington Post? If someone wanted a fair and unbiased opinion about Helms, would they be better of getting it from that publication or from a paper like the Washington Post?

By the way, I hardly agree with Helms on every topic and I hardly agree with many of the things that he said over the years. But overall, I wouldn't bash the guy or his career.

Popkins...you're sounding like Phil,now.




You either know what you're talking about or you're GenuineCrazyLady.....I mean or you don't.

It is not uncommon for politicians to play on people's fears to get elected or to stay in office.

Are you consistent with your criticisms of campaigns playing on people's fears? For example, if a Republican does an anti-affirmative action commercial to tell people that minorities are taking their jobs, is that any worse than a liberal candidate telling women that they may lose their right to chose(abortion) if the Republican candidate wins?

These types of campaigns are dirty, but they are common in politics. Both parties are guilty of playing on people's fears.

Most of the people on this board are hardly experts on the things they post about it. They usually have some knowledge about the subject. Maybe they've read a few articles on the subject.

If you want to beging a new standard here where people can only have an opinion if they are an absolute expert, I don't think there would be any more posts.

Be specific. Which votes did he make which indicate intolerance towards democracy? Is his voting record much different from other conservatives? If not, do you consider most conservatives intolerant toward democracy?

david broder in the washington post:

http://www.racematters.org/jessehelmswhiteracist.htm

it's an editorial but contains factual information. unless you're disputing the facts, it's a bit disingenuous to dismiss it as "one man's opinion".

his opinion was based on the facts presented. was there something wrong with those facts?

For the record, I am sure that there are many quotes from Helms that I would strongly disagree with and that I could not defend. But I'm not going to judge the guy's whole life and career off a few stupid comments.

Most politicians born in the South during that era grew up having some pretty backward views.