No, I get the politics. My wife worked for a U.S. senator for several years. I get it very well.

The RMTC politics are there because they have no power and are funded by the very groups whose behavior they are are trying to change and those groups do not want change.

And, yes, I do thing steroids enhance performance. Do you really think Lyle Alzado would have been just as good off the gook?

No, if it was, there would be some chickens, goats, baby strollers etc. Hooves if you come to L.A., you can visit Paul Pierce's favorite restaurant (Roscoe's Chicken and Waffles.)

http://www.roscoeschickenandwaffles.com/

Whats wrong with Chicken and waffles?

i am lookign forwadr to checking one of these places out when I am out there, they have one near Del Mar?

Maybe if we got the government involved in the investigation of the NBA refs, David Stern's fixing of the NBA lottery and the disappearance of the "traveling violation" in the professional game they would forget about their desire to explore meds in racing a subject they can't possibly know less about.

Your yankee ass cant handle that kinda food:rolleyes:

http://www.roscoeschickenandwaffles.com/video.html

Nothing...I'm serious, he can go there and get some good stuff. Larry King is eating it up. I like where Snoop makes a point of the jelly having to be WELCH'S GRAPE JELLY..LOL...I can't go there much, cuz I would grow.

this thread is all over the map. thankfully someone mentioned chicken and waffles so now my interest is back up.

When I clicked on the link, I thought it was a flashback to the movie "Friday"

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JPJQb...eature=related

Yea, that movie is a masterpiece. " Eating up all the pig feet"

Lyle Alzado is not a horse. Chocolate kills dogs. Different species, Different uses, different dosages. And if you get the politics than you have no excuse for not seeing this for what it is. It is not about the issues nearly as much as it is about the agenda.

http://www.kentucky.com/254/v-print/story/435717.html

Piece dealing specifically on Damon...

You left out the fact the RMTC and NTRA are run funded by people who will resist change. The Stamps kid. Van Whoopwhoop. On and on.

Bubba's been eating chocolate for years. No problems. Yet.

Maybe the question should be posed a different way: if you were to take the steroids away, would performance decline?

If the answer is "no," then a lot of trainers who have stated that they use steroids because they would be at a competitive disadvantage if they don't use them (Tagg and Amoss said so publicly the week of the Belmont) are sadly mistaken.

Are you kidding? The RMTC was designed to be the hammer to make changes, hence the penalties phase being handled first.

If I had vitamins that helped my horses recover from a race faster than people without those same vitamins would I not have an advantage? If i has special hay that kept weight on nervous fillies and others did not have it, would i not have an advantage? Would performance decline in an individual horse? Possibly. If we took away gastrogard from certain horses I know for a fact that their performances will decline. People dont understand the issue of anabolic steroids and their effects in horses versus humans. If you feel the need to be outraged or mad than turn your anger on the racing commissions which never put in effect regulations concerning them. But now they are overcompensating and casting stones at horseman like we are the bad guys. It is not a black and white, good guys versus bad guys issue yet it will most definitely be portrayed that way during this Federal hearing especially in light of the 'witness' list.

Look, I support them but they are the biting dog with rubber teeth. I have been through that document a couple times and it is indeed complex. Perhaps too much so.

As far as steroids enhancing or not enhancing performance, I have read enough to believe they do.

And I have seen enough to know that they they dont.

Not to mention supposed performance enhancers that are legal and available to all dont really give an advantage to anyone do they? Ban the legal ones and the guys willing to use the illegal ones have a big advantage. Wouldnt that be a much greater issue? If Lasix was eliminated then the under the counter meds will give a huge boost to guys willing to use them, no? If you take away all legal tools to deal with horses issues then what are you supposed to do about the issues?

you'd think with all this performance enhancement going on that we'd see some actual good performances.