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pgardn 04-14-2008 10:59 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
a claming race ??????? to win at two turns ? are you kidding me ? do you not read, the goal is the whitney. he is being pointed to the whitney, and he's argubly the fastest horse in the world.

Then he will lose the Whitney
unless he faces jellyfish.

When was the last time the horse even
went two turns?

ateamstupid 04-14-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
a claming race ??????? to win at two turns ? are you kidding me ? do you not read, the goal is the whitney. he is being pointed to the whitney, and he's argubly the fastest horse in the world.

Just stop. He's a very good one-dimensional speed horse. That's it. I was rooting for him in the Whitney because I wasn't a Saint Liam fan, but that was then, and this is now. He's seven years old, and everyone now knows that all you have to do to beat him is enter a cheap speed horse.

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:00 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Then he will lose the Whitney
unless he faces jellyfish.

When was the last time the horse even
went two turns?

does not matter.. he is actually better suited for two turns... a lot better chance to relax early rather then get pushed through 22-44

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:01 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Just stop. He's a very good one-dimensional speed horse. That's it. I was rooting for him in the Whitney because I wasn't a Saint Liam fan, but that was then, and this is now. He's seven years old, and everyone now knows that all you have to do to beat him is enter a cheap speed horse.

your right i guess his 2 races this year, show hes getting old, that 119 beyer is no good..... going 1 mile... track record.... he is getting old and slow

ateamstupid 04-14-2008 11:02 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
your right i guess his 2 races this year, show hes getting old, that 119 beyer is no good..... going 1 mile... track record.... he is getting old and slow

Yeah, he beat some real monsters in that one. Again, he's very good when he's loose on the lead, and there's no way he'll ever be that in a race of consequence again.

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:04 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah, he beat some real monsters in that one. Again, he's very good when he's loose on the lead, and there's no way he'll ever be that in a race of consequence again.

ok, we shall see.....

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Yeah, he beat some real monsters in that one. Again, he's very good when he's loose on the lead, and there's no way he'll ever be that in a race of consequence again.

i think he currently is the best horse in the world, other then curlin...

am i that far off ?

pgardn 04-14-2008 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
does not matter.. he is actually better suited for two turns... a lot better chance to relax early rather then get pushed through 22-44

If he is suited for two turns... why has it been... can you tell me the last time he went two turns? Was when he beat St. Liam? I cant remember.

Hell yes he is fast.
So are quarter horses.
I think it would be cruel running him
at two turns. Speed on the front end,
a horse that can cruise for 6f in the middle, and Commentator
is beaten by invertebrates at two turns. It would be sad.

ateamstupid 04-14-2008 11:06 PM

Yes.

Indian Charlie 04-14-2008 11:15 PM

commentator is so much better going two turns it's not even funny, just as long as he doesnt have to go 44. he can go 46 in company and still win.

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
commentator is so much better going two turns it's not even funny, just as long as he doesnt have to go 44. he can go 46 in company and still win.

thank you

pgardn 04-14-2008 11:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
commentator is so much better going two turns it's not even funny, just as long as he doesnt have to go 44. he can go 46 in company and still win.

And the last time he went two turns since he is a two turn specialist?

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
And the last time he went two turns since he is a two turn specialist?

in my opinion its one of the biggest mysteries in the game...
why has zito not let him go long. ? he could relax, and not get crushed through... 22-44, he may not be a breeders cup classic horse, but hes not a sprinter ... he is 1 mile to 1 1/8

pgardn 04-14-2008 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
in my opinion its one of the biggest mysteries in the game...
why has zito not let him go long. ? he could relax, and not get crushed through... 22-44, he may not be a breeders cup classic horse, but hes not a sprinter ... he is 1 mile to 1 1/8

He is the perfect Belmont one turn 7f to 8f miler.
Thats how he is going to win now.

ateamstupid 04-14-2008 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
in my opinion its one of the biggest mysteries in the game...
why has zito not let him go long. ? he could relax, and not get crushed through... 22-44, he may not be a breeders cup classic horse, but hes not a sprinter ... he is 1 mile to 1 1/8

The big mystery here is what you don't get about how easy it would be to beat Commentator around two turns.

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:23 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
He is the perfect Belmont one turn 7f to 8f miler.
Thats how he is going to win now.

your really upsetting me... you continue to say now

the horse just got a 119 beyer off of a layoff, setting a track record....

what is this now **** ? like age is hurting him.

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
The big mystery here is what you don't get about how easy it would be to beat Commentator around two turns.

i am not the only one..... you make it like there are so many others... this horse is a FREAK EVEN NOW AT 7

ateamstupid 04-14-2008 11:24 PM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i am not the only one..... you make it like there are so many others... this horse is a FREAK EVEN NOW AT 7

Tell me what he does if someone enters a rabbit. Tell me why it's going to be different than the '05 Woodward.

IrishofNDMan 04-14-2008 11:26 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Tell me what he does if someone enters a rabbit. Tell me why it's going to be different than the '05 Woodward.

two words, GIVES UP!

jcs11204 04-14-2008 11:27 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Tell me what he does if someone enters a rabbit. Tell me why it's going to be different than the '05 Woodward.

the 05 woodward is the ultimate excuse race... he could have bounced anyway, even without a rabbit, and there were 2.... and as you already know the chart reads under attack, they destroyed him that day...


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