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Scav 04-04-2008 02:26 PM

I think Albarado's jump was more about Carroll wanting a two race committment, but don't quote me on that...

SniperSB23 04-04-2008 02:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I think Albarado's jump was more about Carroll wanting a two race committment, but don't quote me on that...

Or about not telling Frankel to f*** off.

MISTERGEE 04-04-2008 03:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
This race is not exactly packed with speed, on a track which can go speed crazy overnight. It's that reason why I cannot toss Golden Spikes after looking at the race. Otherwise, he's holding something similar to the O2X figure pattern and is sitting on a massive regression.

antidote to the 02x---MD Wolfson

Coach Pants 04-04-2008 04:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jcs11204
julian is tons better then robby TONS
i would want leparoux anyday over robby

No he isn't. And I say this as someone who can't stand Albarado.

JJP 04-04-2008 07:45 PM

I think this race is much more wide open than those who are handing it to Dennis of Cork. Here's how I'm pricing the race:

1 Recapturetheglory 7-1
2 Instill 20-1
3 Z Humor 4-1
4 Atoned 5-2
5 Denis of Cork 5-2
6 Golden Spikes 7-2
7 Real Appeal 10-1

GBBob 04-04-2008 08:42 PM

Article in today's Trib on Golden Spikes connections


http://www.chicagotribune.com/sports...,3486189.story

dpkovalesky 04-04-2008 09:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JJP
I think this race is much more wide open than those who are handing it to Dennis of Cork. Here's how I'm pricing the race:

1 Recapturetheglory 7-1
2 Instill 20-1
3 Z Humor 4-1
4 Atoned 5-2
5 Denis of Cork 5-2
6 Golden Spikes 7-2
7 Real Appeal 10-1



I find it hard to believe that Denis would be that high

wapete 04-04-2008 09:55 PM

The way I see it, they are all racing for 2nd- Denis is for real and will become a undefeated champ on May 3rd. Maybe he is taking an easy prep schedule just to save a little for his triple crown campaign. I hope he is 5-2 against these!

JJP 04-04-2008 11:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by dpkovalesky
I find it hard to believe that Denis would be that high

He has hardly any edge figure wise and his 96 Beyer was the product of a perfect trip when a brutal pace fell apart late. COntrast that to a horse like Atoned, who was very wide in his last, clipped heels in the start before that, and in both cases made big premature moves only to get nailed at the wire. He was arguably the best animal in both those races. I'm also anticipating a fairly soft pace and that will not work to Dennis the Cork's advantage.

The Bid 04-04-2008 11:57 PM

If Hawthorne played like it played today there wont be a horse win from less than 3 back. The track was ridiculous today.

Scav 04-05-2008 10:01 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by The Bid
If Hawthorne played like it played today there wont be a horse win from less than 3 back. The track was ridiculous today.

That is normal, if they close there, they played with the track

Scav 04-05-2008 03:57 PM

They did something to the track, rail is REAL good today, Master Commander was a fading 3rd and came back to almost win, and the 1's just beat Coach Jimi Lee and High Expectations. 1's were garbage.

Mike 04-05-2008 04:00 PM

I'm with Recapturetheglory here, has great dirt history, and some here claim knowledge that Denis of Cork's connections have other races on their minds

IrishofNDMan 04-05-2008 04:28 PM

$15 straight trifecta

D of C with Z Humor with Atoned

packerbacker7964 04-05-2008 04:35 PM

D of C had an easy run in the Southwest. Lone speed types out front were real easy to reel in now he'll get the acid test today.

IrishofNDMan 04-05-2008 04:36 PM

Cork looked like crap out there, even if the connections had another race in mind you know they wanted to see something better than that.

whodey17 04-05-2008 04:37 PM

Didnt see the #1 at all in this race. "The big 3" of the race didnt run at all. I guess you could make a little excuse for DofC. But he did have time to get back into the race.

2Hot4TV 04-05-2008 04:39 PM

I was on the #6 and to get beat by a 15 to1 shot just frosts my a s s.

tiggerv 04-05-2008 04:43 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Mike
I'm with Recapturetheglory here, has great dirt history, and some here claim knowledge that Denis of Cork's connections have other races on their minds


Excellent call

jms62 04-05-2008 04:44 PM

ANyone think the 1.00 Super should've paid more than 1600 ? Maybe because there only was 7 horses but the favorite runs out and we got a 33.80 winner... I think these dimers are killing the payouts.

PS..

Fair disclosure I hit it for a buck so I am biased here


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