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Danzig 03-30-2008 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I don't have the time to go through the charts to verify, but the favorites at post time have done at least reasonably well the last dozen years or so at the Derby. Street Sense, Smarty Jones and Barbaro come to mind (though Sweetnorthernsaint may have been the betting favorite, I really can't recall).

i do believe SNS was the favorite.

Cajungator26 03-30-2008 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig
i do believe SNS was the favorite.

Yep, he was the final favorite, although Brother Derek was the M/L fave. The Cliff's Edge was the M/L favorite for 2004 at 4-1, although Smarty did go off as the favorite when the gates opened.

Dunbar 03-30-2008 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I have heard that Pinnacle is shuting out horse people now, especially the winners......

They automatically closed my account when they stopped taking US customers.

They dropped their WPS rebate from 7% to 5% in November. So they were probably not doing great with that.

--Dunbar

JJP 03-30-2008 09:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
Good as any in this group, fun to root for a horse with pedigree like that.

Has he ever run on real dirt?

Cajungator26 03-30-2008 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by JJP
Has he ever run on real dirt?

Nope.

jms62 03-31-2008 06:22 AM

Bodog Futures are now open again. Big Brown is 5/1

robfla 03-31-2008 06:45 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62
Bodog Futures are now open again. Big Brown is 5/1


Pyro is 5-1 and War Pass is 14-1

5-1 on Big Brown seems fair but it is much safer waiting for Derby Day and if you want to bet BB, bet him them. Maybe get a point of two less, but no risk of not going into the starting gate and you get to see the post position.

jcs11204 03-31-2008 08:00 AM

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Originally Posted by robfla
Pyro is 5-1 and War Pass is 14-1

5-1 on Big Brown seems fair but it is much safer waiting for Derby Day and if you want to bet BB, bet him them. Maybe get a point of two less, but no risk of not going into the starting gate and you get to see the post position.

i dont like this horse, dont like him for the derby at all....

but a point or two less ? even if war pass freaks in the wood, big brown is no more then 5-2 in the derby, actually even if war pass runs huge i still think big brown is 5-2 or lower i'd say somewhere in between 6-5 and 2-1 is more accurate. so if you like him , why not pound him at 5-1 ???

zippyneedsawin 03-31-2008 08:12 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i dont like this horse, dont like him for the derby at all....

but a point or two less ? even if war pass freaks in the wood, big brown is no more then 5-2 in the derby, actually even if war pass runs huge i still think big brown is 5-2 or lower i'd say somewhere in between 6-5 and 2-1 is more accurate. so if you like him , why not pound him at 5-1 ???


6/5??!?! no way.. not unless Pyro, War Pass, Denis of Cork, El Gato Malo, Colonel John and a few others fail to make the starting gate. BB will likely be the favorite, but not THAT big of a favorite.

slotdirt 03-31-2008 08:18 AM

I think it's way premature to say Big Brown is going to be the favorite. We have a number of horses who might freak in these last few preps that could easily challenge Big Brown for betting favoritism. Bettors can have exceptionally short memories.

zippyneedsawin 03-31-2008 08:27 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I think it's way premature to say Big Brown is going to be the favorite. We have a number of horses who might freak in these last few preps that could easily challenge Big Brown for betting favoritism. Bettors can have exceptionally short memories.

I liked what you said earlier about... what were we talking about? :D

ateamstupid 03-31-2008 10:36 AM

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Originally Posted by jcs11204
i dont like this horse, dont like him for the derby at all....

but a point or two less ? even if war pass freaks in the wood, big brown is no more then 5-2 in the derby, actually even if war pass runs huge i still think big brown is 5-2 or lower i'd say somewhere in between 6-5 and 2-1 is more accurate. so if you like him , why not pound him at 5-1 ???

You wildin'.

herkhorse 03-31-2008 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by slotdirt
I think it's way premature to say Big Brown is going to be the favorite. We have a number of horses who might freak in these last few preps that could easily challenge Big Brown for betting favoritism. Bettors can have exceptionally short memories.

;) so true

HaloWishingwell 03-31-2008 10:58 AM

Is this BODOG account valid to use anywhere in the U.S. ?

TheSpyder 03-31-2008 11:16 AM

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Originally Posted by HaloWishingwell
Is this BODOG account valid to use anywhere in the U.S. ?

Yes, I use it in SC where I can't use any legal US based once.

It's good...not great but good.

Spyder

HaloWishingwell 03-31-2008 11:20 AM

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Originally Posted by TheSpyder
Yes, I use it in SC where I can't use any legal US based once.

It's good...not great but good.

Spyder

Thank you very much


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