Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

Are you guys being serious right now? It was at a roast. Have you ever seen a roast? They're all jokes. Are you seriously offended by someone saying F-Touchdown Jesus?

Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS

From my interpretation of Jesus - he seemed the type who'd probably love nothing more than to be F---ed.

Originally Posted by docicu3

Drugs you know there are stories about he and MM that would lay creedance to this....

On the subject of Dana I am shocked nobody has a link to the monologue off a bad camera phone or it's equivalent. At the risk of being called sexist I place this behavior at the M and M roast in the same category of former teacher Deb L from Fla who apparently has a thing for intimacy with very young boys....her lawyer got her off because "We can't send a young woman like that to maximum security prison it is inhumane"....so she did no time and society buys it while a guy guilty of those actions gets a roommate in a small room .

If a guy did what Dana did who was a male ESPN counterpart he would be looking for the Harold Reynolds version of "How do I get a job after I've done something stupid" Dana went over the PC line by miles and suffered no consequences roast blue or not.....

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So you put Dana Jacobson, who made jokes about Notre Dame and Touchdown Jesus, at A ROAST in the same category as a teacher who had sex with her underage students? That's pretty sick. Thankfully you aren't someone making decisions at ESPN. Harold Reynolds sexually harrassed women. You can call it stupid, but it was after a pattern of harrasment that he was let go.

I'm also not sure where you got your info on the Lafave trial, but the defense does not dictate terms in a trial. The prosecution was adament in Lafave doing prison time, but changed it's stance in the plea agreement, because the boy's mother did not want her son testifying in the case. That is why she didn't go to prison.

I ask again, is there anyone here besides Bigs and myself who has ever seen a roast? Apparently not. That's what happens at roasts. People tell jokes, some over the line and it's all in good fun. Anyone ever see the old Dean Martin roasts? I guarantee you can't get through one of those without finding tons of offensive stuff. But people realize it was all in good fun. Me thinks people would be better off worrying about serious issues in the world right now and not what Dana Jacobson said, at A ROAST of her friends. Anyone know if Mike and Mike were as offended by some here? I'll go out on a limb and say probably not.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So you put Dana Jacobson, who made jokes about Notre Dame and Touchdown Jesus, at A ROAST in the same category as a teacher who had sex with her underage students? That's pretty sick. Thankfully you aren't someone making decisions at ESPN. Harold Reynolds sexually harrassed women. You can call it stupid, but it was after a pattern of harrasment that he was let go.

I'm also not sure where you got your info on the Lafave trial, but the defense does not dictate terms in a trial. The prosecution was adament in Lafave doing prison time, but changed it's stance in the plea agreement, because the boy's mother did not want her son testifying in the case. That is why she didn't go to prison.

I ask again, is there anyone here besides Bigs and myself who has ever seen a roast? Apparently not. That's what happens at roasts. People tell jokes, some over the line and it's all in good fun. Anyone ever see the old Dean Martin roasts? I guarantee you can't get through one of those without finding tons of offensive stuff. But people realize it was all in good fun. Me thinks people would be better off worrying about serious issues in the world right now and not what Dana Jacobson said, at A ROAST of her friends. Anyone know if Mike and Mike were as offended by some here? I'll go out on a limb and say probably not.

Originally Posted by MaTH716

To compare what somebody (really a nobody) said at a charity roast versus a teacher who had realtions with a student or young boys (not really familar with the case, but it doesn't matter) is ridiculous.
As far as the male, female debate. I do not think it matters in this case. I am guessing that the majority of people haven't even heard about what happened at the roast or don't care (because it was a roast and a nobody said it). The reason that these things usually spin out of control is because you have someone who thinks that they are the defender of the discrimminated and that person tries to fan the flames. Imus would be a perfect example. Guy said a stupid thing and you saw the treatment that followed.

Originally Posted by docicu3

Maybe my take on the board is different or out and out wrong.....but I use the board for different reasons different times......information,discussion,laughs,venting and quite frankly BS. I am neither qualified or educated enough to debate the Roberts Rules of the judicial system, my point about D and D was not to lump them together as having sinned equally or debate the specifics of why either did what they did and how others responded in the judicial system or employer, it was an observation that the playing field is not always even in judgement of behavior or evaluating choices made that in other arenas would provoke serious consequences.....

If somehow my previous post left you believing I was anymore authoritative or judgemental it was not my intention.

Simply put ...some people catch more breaks than others for a myriad of reasons and I'll just leave it there!!!

Now give me 3 horses your sure will win the 5th at SA today and I'll be eternally grateful to you....

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

So you put Dana Jacobson, who made jokes about Notre Dame and Touchdown Jesus, at A ROAST in the same category as a teacher who had sex with her underage students? That's pretty sick. Thankfully you aren't someone making decisions at ESPN. Harold Reynolds sexually harrassed women. You can call it stupid, but it was after a pattern of harrasment that he was let go.

I'm also not sure where you got your info on the Lafave trial, but the defense does not dictate terms in a trial. The prosecution was adament in Lafave doing prison time, but changed it's stance in the plea agreement, because the boy's mother did not want her son testifying in the case. That is why she didn't go to prison.

I ask again, is there anyone here besides Bigs and myself who has ever seen a roast? Apparently not. That's what happens at roasts. People tell jokes, some over the line and it's all in good fun. Anyone ever see the old Dean Martin roasts? I guarantee you can't get through one of those without finding tons of offensive stuff. But people realize it was all in good fun. Me thinks people would be better off worrying about serious issues in the world right now and not what Dana Jacobson said, at A ROAST of her friends. Anyone know if Mike and Mike were as offended by some here? I'll go out on a limb and say probably not.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

We're just different man. Frankly I don't see why you would even care what Dana Jacobson said. Why even take the time to care what she says? I think you are making a big deal out of nothing and trying to stir up some kind of cause that just isn't there. To think she should be fired for saying those "offensive" things is ridiculous to me.

It was a roast, the point of a roast is to be offensive. I'd love to see proof of how "VERY VERY" embarassed Mike and Mike were. And frankly, who cares if Charlie Weis was offended. Who gives a shiat what he thinks.

Originally Posted by Danzig

she should be punished because YOU don't like her remarks?? that's ridiculous.

what happened to free speech? what happened to ' i may not agree with you, but i agree with your right to say it?' what about when you say something 'offensive' irish? or is that different??
get off your high horse. if you don't like something, don't engage in that behavior. but gimme a break about pushing your ideals on someone else.

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698

We're just different man. Frankly I don't see why you would even care what Dana Jacobson said. Why even take the time to care what she says? I think you are making a big deal out of nothing and trying to stir up some kind of cause that just isn't there. To think she should be fired for saying those "offensive" things is ridiculous to me.

It was a roast, the point of a roast is to be offensive. I'd love to see proof of how "VERY VERY" embarassed Mike and Mike were. And frankly, who cares if Charlie Weis was offended. Who gives a shiat what he thinks.

Originally Posted by IrishofNDMan

Then why did Don Imus get fired??????

Why did Jimmy the Greek get hounded about his comments?????

I agree with free speech, but how can you punish someone for offensive comments, and then let the next go when it's against a different group of people????

Originally Posted by SentToStud

Well, for one thing, I don't thnk Jesus really has any standing upon which to sue.

For another, most would agree with the F**k Notre Dame part.