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NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 07:11 AM

Just seems strange that this boy suddenly seems to have 'found himself' as an 8yo.

Hope he can win

jaripeo 12-20-2007 09:53 AM

[quote=my miss storm cat]Yeah Fight looks really good and so do his other two.

BALLYCHACE is the best of Watson; but I do belive the dangers one is MUSSAYER. Will fine out ;)

NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 10:21 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jaripeo
Yeah Fight looks really good and so do his other two.

BALLYCHACE is the best of Watson; but I do belive the dangers one is MUSSAYER. Will fine out ;)

Ballychace has never won at Nad Al Sheba. Seems as though he isn't quite good enough to win there.

Having said that, he hasn't won anywhere since February 2006.

He was also beaten three lengths by Fight in November.

What makes you say he is the best of Doug's with that form?

NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 10:38 AM

Pride Of Baghdad won quite well today.

I might be thinking of a different horse with a similar name, but he's a bit of a character, isn't he?

Doesn't always want to win.

NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 11:20 AM

Fight could only manage 5th :(

Bonecrusher ran a great race to finish 2nd, good pick, mmsc.


Result http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Res...cefile_id=7326

my miss storm cat 12-20-2007 03:27 PM

Another fine old guy.

Never wins but oh well. :D

NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 03:28 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Another fine old guy.

Never wins but oh well. :D

He was only beaten a 1/4 of a length, so it was close. Maybe he just doesn't like spoiling someone elses' party?

my miss storm cat 12-20-2007 03:32 PM

Could be.

His last gallant win, in a field of 4 no less.....

Sweet boy. Look at the date...:eek:

NEWMARKET (JULY)
08 August 2003
Good To Firm

8:20 Bexhill And IIB Insurance Brokers Conditions Stakes (Class C) (Class 3) (3yo+) 1m2f


Draw TRAINER Age Wgt JOCKEY SP OR TS RPR

1 Bonecrusher 4 D R Loder 4 8-13 v1 L Dettori EvensF 104 44 109
2 2½ Gallant Hero (GB) 3 Sir Michael Stoute 4 8-13 K Fallon 3/1 104 39 105
3 nk Barrissimo (IRE) 2 W J Musson 3 8-4 Richard Mullen 10/1 39 104?
4 1¾ Shamrock City (IRE) 1 P Howling 6 8-13 Seb Sanders 100/30 99 35 101?

This looked a good opportunity for BONECRUSHER to return to winning form and, equipped with a visor for the firdt time, ran out an easy winner. He was a little keen early-on but when the leader stepped up the tempo he travelled much more easily and going into the final two furlongs there only appeared one winner. He readily went to the front over a furlong out and galloped on strongly to the line. He could now be starting to discover the potential he possessed as a three-year-old and looks capable of adding to this victory in listed company.
Gallant Hero probably found the ground too lively and was being vigorously ridden when coming under pressure in the final three furlongs. To his credit he kept on going all the way to the line and should find a similar event when ground conditions are in his favour.
Shamrock City had run a blinder over a mile here last weekend and set out to make all but was clearly no match for the winner. However, he clearly retains his ability and will find a race in due course.
Barrissimo ran a sound race for one so inexperienced and on his first outing since last October. He should improve for the run and he won't be long in winning either.

NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 03:46 PM

Ofcourse.

As soon as you have posted that I remember the old boy. His name didn't mean that much, but no I remember him quite well. How could I ever forget this race:

3:45 Weatherbys Bank Stakes (Registered As The Doonside Cup) (Listed Race) (Class 1) (3yo+) (1m2f192y) 1m3f

[off 3:45] £17,400.00, £6,600.00, £3,300.00, £1,500.00, £750.00, £450.00

Draw TRAINER Age Wgt JOCKEY SP OR TS RPR

1 Into The Dark 6 Saeed Bin Suroor 3 8-4 tv Kerrin McEvoy 5/4 114 98 117
2 5 Percussionist (IRE) 1 J H M Gosden 3 8-11 K Darley EvensF 118 95 119+
3 ½ Bonecrusher 3 D R Loder 5 8-11 v Seb Sanders 9/1 105 88 108
4 28 Howards Dream (IRE) 5 D A Nolan 6 8-11 t David Allan 500/1 30 32 60?
5 14 Society Times (USA) 4 D A Nolan 11 8-11 t Patrick Mathers 500/1 30 3 36?
6 dist Court Of Appeal 2 B Ellison 7 8-11 t Tom Eaves 25/1 90 — —


6 ran TIME 2m 27.85s (slow by 10.35s) TOTAL SP 108%
1st OWNER: Godolphin BRED: Gainsborough Stud Management Ltd TRAINER: Saeed Bin Suroor
2nd OWNER: Sangster Family
3rd OWNER: Mohammed Rashid


INTO THE DARK extended his unbeaten run to four with another workmanlike display, but, with Percussionist showing very little - he struggled to get past the 11-year-old selling plater Society Times turning for home - and Bonecrusher refusing to battle, this was a pretty hollow victory.
A horse who was unraced as a juvenile, Into The Dark has progressed well all season and will not be raced much more before being put away for next year when he could develop into an even better performer.
Percussionist looked well below the form that saw him beaten only two lengths into fourth in the Derby. He subsequently blotted his copybook with a poor display in the Irish Derby, while an unsatisfactory blood count had ruled him out of last week's StLeger. Here, he was being scrubbed along a long way from home and could never get to grips with the winner. Although slightly hampered by the hanging Bonecrusher, the writing was already on the wall at that point.
Bonecrusher has plenty of ability, but looks reluctant to use it and, after making good headway to look a threat to the winner, hung his head and cried enough under pressure. The remaining trio were well beaten, with Court Of Appeal running as though something was amiss. (T O'R)

my miss storm cat 12-20-2007 03:58 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Ofcourse.

As soon as you have posted that I remember the old boy. His name didn't mean that much, but no I remember him quite well. How could I ever forget this race:

3:45 Weatherbys Bank Stakes (Registered As The Doonside Cup) (Listed Race) (Class 1) (3yo+) (1m2f192y) 1m3f

[off 3:45] £17,400.00, £6,600.00, £3,300.00, £1,500.00, £750.00, £450.00

Draw TRAINER Age Wgt JOCKEY SP OR TS RPR

1 Into The Dark 6 Saeed Bin Suroor 3 8-4 tv Kerrin McEvoy 5/4 114 98 117
2 5 Percussionist (IRE) 1 J H M Gosden 3 8-11 K Darley EvensF 118 95 119+
3 ½ Bonecrusher 3 D R Loder 5 8-11 v Seb Sanders 9/1 105 88 108
4 28 Howards Dream (IRE) 5 D A Nolan 6 8-11 t David Allan 500/1 30 32 60?
5 14 Society Times (USA) 4 D A Nolan 11 8-11 t Patrick Mathers 500/1 30 3 36?
6 dist Court Of Appeal 2 B Ellison 7 8-11 t Tom Eaves 25/1 90 — —


6 ran TIME 2m 27.85s (slow by 10.35s) TOTAL SP 108%
1st OWNER: Godolphin BRED: Gainsborough Stud Management Ltd TRAINER: Saeed Bin Suroor
2nd OWNER: Sangster Family
3rd OWNER: Mohammed Rashid


INTO THE DARK extended his unbeaten run to four with another workmanlike display, but, with Percussionist showing very little - he struggled to get past the 11-year-old selling plater Society Times turning for home - and Bonecrusher refusing to battle, this was a pretty hollow victory.
A horse who was unraced as a juvenile, Into The Dark has progressed well all season and will not be raced much more before being put away for next year when he could develop into an even better performer.
Percussionist looked well below the form that saw him beaten only two lengths into fourth in the Derby. He subsequently blotted his copybook with a poor display in the Irish Derby, while an unsatisfactory blood count had ruled him out of last week's StLeger. Here, he was being scrubbed along a long way from home and could never get to grips with the winner. Although slightly hampered by the hanging Bonecrusher, the writing was already on the wall at that point.
Bonecrusher has plenty of ability, but looks reluctant to use it and, after making good headway to look a threat to the winner, hung his head and cried enough under pressure. The remaining trio were well beaten, with Court Of Appeal running as though something was amiss. (T O'R)

Oh my God it really does say that! Thought you were kidding.....

Cried? I've never seen that before. What does it mean???

Remember this one?

ABU DHABI
03 December 2006
Good To Firm

4:00 National Day Cup Sponsored By ADEC (Listed Race) (Turf) (3yo+) 1m

1 King Jock (USA) 3 R J Osborne 5 8-11 P Shanahan 109 — 99
2 ¼ National Captain (SAF) 16 S Seemar 4 8-11 Ted Durcan 100 — 98
3 1¼ Ace :) :cool: (IRE) 8 S Seemar 5 8-11 W J Supple 113 — 96
4 ½ Le Prince Charmant (FR) 14 E Charpy 5 8-11 Richard Mullen 100 — 95
5 2¼ State Shinto (USA) 4 R Bouresly 10 8-11 tb D Hayse 85 — 90
6 3¼ Hurricane James (IRE) 6 E Charpy 4 8-11 t Royston Ffrench 102 — 84
7 ¼ Harb (IRE) 1 Doug Watson 6 8-11 t Pat Dobbs 93 — 83
8 ½ Izdiham (IRE) 15 M Al Darmaki 7 8-11 John Panas 95 — 82
9 2 Lundy´s Lane (IRE) 11 S Seemar 6 8-11 D O´Donohoe 100 — 78
10 ¾ The Coires (IRE) 2 Doug Watson 4 8-11 Richard Smith 86 — 77
11 1½ Country Rambler (USA) 7 Doug Watson 4 8-11 Craig Arnold 90 — 74
12 ¼ Etmaam (GB) 9 S Seemar 5 8-11 v1 N Rodriguez 88 — 73
13 hd Brahminy Kite (USA) 12 R Bouresly 4 8-11 A Deau 96 — 73
14 1½ Millbag (IRE) 5 D Selvaratnam 5 8-11 v R P Cleary 95 — 70
15 ¾ Mutafanen (GB) 13 E Charpy 5 8-11 p T P O´Shea 100 — 68
16 4¼ Bonecrusher (GB) 10 M Al Muhairi 7 8-11 t Wayne Smith 95 — 60

NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 03:59 PM

That reminds me of another ex David Loder horse and now in Dubai.....


PARASOL

So much ability, but rarely wanted to use it!

NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 04:01 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Oh my God it really does say that! Thought you were kidding.....

Cried? I've never seen that before. What does it mean???

Well he didn't cry, silly :p

It basically just means that as soon as the jockey asked him, he just didn't want to do it, so he put his head in the air and hung back.

Bascially, he just wasn't trying.

NoChanceToDance 12-20-2007 04:06 PM

Also. This was the comment in running he was given for that race:

Bonecrusher
slowly into stride, held up, headway to chase winner over 3f out, chance 2f out, flashed tail under pressure and no extra approaching final furlong

my miss storm cat 12-21-2007 07:04 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NoChanceToDance
Also. This was the comment in running he was given for that race:

Bonecrusher
slowly into stride, held up, headway to chase winner over 3f out, chance 2f out, flashed tail under pressure and no extra approaching final furlong

:D

I like that one and how would i know what it means.... maybe his theme song can be The Crying Game?

This one is nice.....

GOODWOOD
27 July 2004

2:05 Sterling Insurance Summer Stakes (Heritage Handicap) (Class B) (Class 2) (4yo+) (1m1f192y) 1m2f

and the slow-starting Bonecrusher, who got carried back to an impossible position, but then staged a tremendous rally when switched to the outside, passing horse after horse in the final furlong to finish fast in third, looking unlucky not to win.

NoChanceToDance 12-21-2007 07:59 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
:D

I like that one and how would i know what it means.... maybe his theme song can be The Crying Game?

This one is nice.....

GOODWOOD
27 July 2004

2:05 Sterling Insurance Summer Stakes (Heritage Handicap) (Class B) (Class 2) (4yo+) (1m1f192y) 1m2f

and the slow-starting Bonecrusher, who got carried back to an impossible position, but then staged a tremendous rally when switched to the outside, passing horse after horse in the final furlong to finish fast in third, looking unlucky not to win.

That is how he needed to be ridden. The jockey need to drop anchor at the start and slowly but surely pass horses one by one as they were getting tired. He never seemed to keen on having a "1" next to his name, though.

I love thinking back to these old David Loder horses, he was a fantastic trainer (a complete ******* most of the time, but a good trainer when allowed to do it his own way).

Bonecrusher
Parasol
Dublin
Razkalla (a fav of mine but never reached the heights he was expected to)
Sabra D'argent (didn't he end up in America?)
Kheleyf (before he was ruined by Godolphin)
Queen Of Poland (another Godolphin casualty, I believe)

and......

the horse that could have been top class, instead Godolphin ruined him and then wanted him to be a lead horse when he was beating Gr1 winners up the gallops.....the one, the only...... BULL RUN :cool:

NoChanceToDance 12-26-2007 05:58 PM

Some of the sprinters are out tomorrow. Looks a good race......

http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7337

my miss storm cat 12-27-2007 01:37 AM

Salaam Dubai / Terrific Challenge

Fight is in R3.

NoChanceToDance 12-27-2007 04:37 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Salaam Dubai / Terrific Challenge

Fight is in R3.

On form, those two should dominate this race.

NoChanceToDance 12-27-2007 12:18 PM

Well this certainly wasn't the result I was expecting

http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Res...cefile_id=7337

NoChanceToDance 01-01-2008 11:51 AM

You better sit down and hold your breath, mmsc......

http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7344

http://www.emiratesracing.com/eq/Rac...cefile_id=7345


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