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TitanSooner 08-20-2007 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't know you well enough to have an opinion on your idiocy, but I think you are sort of missing the point. This is NOT a gambling concern that I am talking about. I realize people are gambling on it, people will gamble on anything. I'll deal with that if NY ends up going to poly.

It's a racing issue. the racing isn't interesting. You obviously aren't a fan, which is fine. But as a fan, it sucks. Not bitching and moaning, just saying it sucks.

cool

TitanSooner 08-20-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I'm curious Titan. Around 2 weeks ago you were calling the poly crap and that you would only let yourself invest $12 on the "stuff". What brought about the big change of opinion?

watched enough of it and figured it out.. I guess.

It's definitely different than handicapping dirt

ArlJim78 08-20-2007 05:06 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't know you well enough to have an opinion on your idiocy, but I think you are sort of missing the point. This is NOT a gambling concern that I am talking about. I realize people are gambling on it, people will gamble on anything. I'll deal with that if NY ends up going to poly.

It's a racing issue. the racing isn't interesting. You obviously aren't a fan, which is fine. But as a fan, it sucks. Not bitching and moaning, just saying it sucks.

i simply don't get it either. specifically what sucks? I thoroughly enjoyed it and i consider myself a fan. probably some of the people that set a Del Mar wagering record yesterday also enjoyed it.
is it all because of the final time?

Cajungator26 08-20-2007 05:55 PM

I hate it that chicks can't have a say in this thread. :D

Oops.

brianwspencer 08-20-2007 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't know how else I can say I am not talking about wagering. The race was a joke. I don't really know how else to explain it other than say if there was no poly. If I told you Student Council won the Pacific Classic you would tell me I am nuts.
Well he did, strictly because of the poly. Also, since he had never really showed a fondness for the poly, it just doesn't make sense. I know, Jerry Brown liked him, blah blah. Maybe I am a bit of a traditionalist but it has ruined racing out west for me. And this is not me being sour because I lost. I made one bet at Del Mar yesterday, a turf race. I won't tell you if I hit it or not, because I wouldn't want to be a dreaded redboarder. You like it, because you have had some success on it. I tend to think your opinion might be different if you didn't. We saw how quick Titan's changed.

Maybe I'm missing the point too -- but I enjoyed yesterday's race.

On poly, on dirt, anywhere -- that would have been a stupid weak Pacific Classic. I do understand those lamenting how speed horses don't hold their speed on some of the artifical surfaces, but in a way, I don't think that's an entirely bad thing for the future of the breed.

Someone above (cm?) mentioned that he used to love watching horses blaze out and dare someone to catch them -- maybe we're talking specifically about Del Mar only with that feeling, but I certainly enjoyed watching horses do that, and at a place like Arlington, still find it thrilling to watch that happen. Obviously Del Mar's surface needs to be worked on a bit and they'll need to adjust it to the weather/other outside factors, but I consider myself a "fan" of the game and I still enjoyed watching yesterday's race. It looked like a crapshoot going in, and looked like a crapshoot coming out, so I'm not seeing the problem. When you've got a field comprised of mostly glorified West Coast mid-to-high-end claimers, isn't Student Council winning a GI sort of the thing you should expect to be possible?

fpsoxfan 08-20-2007 06:48 PM

Sure, it was nice to see Student Council win, but the final time is what did it for me. Does it even the playing field? Yes Does it make us all handicap differently? Yes Is it safer for horses? Most likely Is it real horse racing?
No way

brianwspencer 08-20-2007 06:49 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
If you think the poly will change the future of the breed I have a bridge to seel you also. Maybe I'm too simplistic. Student phucking Council just won the Pacific Classic. Sorry if seeing his name up there with past winners of the Pacific Classic bothers me. It used to be a prestigious race. Now it's the Claiming Crown Classic.

You must still be really pissed off about Sutra, too, eh?

**** happens.

Horses who shouldn't be GI winners become GI winners from time to time.

booner 08-20-2007 07:12 PM

I'll take the race. Something about a 385 pound woman spinning around a pole on an elevated stage doesn't sound appealing.......but maybe it's just me. :D

Indian Charlie 08-20-2007 07:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
I hate it that chicks can't have a say in this thread. :D

Oops.

hell, chicks werent even supposed to read this thread! i guess chicks never were able to follow instructions very well. so, go ahead and pipe in.

would you choose a 385 lb female stripper, or dmr poly?

deltagulf 08-20-2007 08:00 PM

me too i'll take the race. 385 is just to much.

Cajungator26 08-20-2007 09:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
hell, chicks werent even supposed to read this thread! i guess chicks never were able to follow instructions very well. so, go ahead and pipe in.

would you choose a 385 lb female stripper, or dmr poly?

Do I look like the type to follow instructions? :p

philcski 08-20-2007 10:14 PM

I'll take the size-challenged chick:p that was terrible!

pgardn 08-20-2007 11:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Which would be more enjoyable?

Watching a grade 1 race run over the Del Mar poly track?

OR

Watching a 385 pound woman do a strip teaze?

How about turning this into the most mind boggling phenomenon...

and then adding the third choice of reading The Petition to Let Morton out of his playroom thread.


too easy forget it.

Where was the really good horses will win on any surface idea gone?

I believe some Euros have come over here, run backwards on a foreign surface (dirt) and won.
Maybe this will give us the chance to witness a true superstar. Wins on dirt, grass, and syn. You cant beat this horse on anything. I looking forward to the possibilty. The stuff is not going anywhere soon. And if NY puts some in, and it catches and spreads... the Universe as we know it will fold in on itself creating infinite space in the smallest possible volume. It could be that catastrophic.
When Baffert quits, we know the calamity is upon us. Big crybaby.

SniperSB23 08-20-2007 11:32 PM

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Originally Posted by pgardn
Maybe this will give us the chance to witness a true superstar. Wins on dirt, grass, and syn. You cant beat this horse on anything.

Lava Man has already won on all three of those and you can beat him on anything.

jerseybred 08-21-2007 01:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Indian Charlie
Which would be more enjoyable?

Watching a grade 1 race run over the Del Mar poly track?

OR

Watching a 385 pound woman do a strip teaze?

amazing the men only comment was obediently enterained .... in both cases you have to close your eyes so why even ask?

Indian Charlie 08-21-2007 01:53 AM

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Originally Posted by jerseybred
amazing the men only comment was obediently enterained .... in both cases you have to close your eyes so why even ask?

yeah, i just put the men only thing in in the slim hope that i wouldnt be shredded by the women on here for using a 385 lb woman as an example!

i thought for sure i'd be banned, or at the very least, banished to morty land, a sad, lonely and desperate place.


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