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Bold Brooklynite 07-01-2006 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by PSH
Bold:

Have placed a small win and place bet.....
How do you get your info?
Are you privy to Gary Contessa and his stable as far as info?
Or, are you just handicapping the race like everyone else?

Best of Luck,

PSH

I know Contessa very slightly ... not in any remote way a friend or confidant.

He told me Mayan King was a good one at Saratoga when he was a 2YO ... the horse, not Gary. He could have sold Mayan King as a 3YO for $1.2 million ... but he advised Mr. Partridge to hold onto him ... just before he got injured.

His comeback has been quite exciting ... and his last race showed he really has the class Gary said he did. There are all kinds of factors going against him ... so if he wins tonight it will really show something special.

I haven't made a serious bet on a horse since 1967 ... and my streak continues.

zippyneedsawin 07-01-2006 09:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Bold Brooklynite
Mayan King's inevitable march to the 2006 Horse-Of-The-Year Eclipse Award ... takes its first serious step on Saturday ... as New York invades Iowa for the 9f G2 Cornhusker "Handicap."

Gary Contessa decided not to stay home for the 10f Suburban ... which may have been a mistake given how soft the field for that race is ... but instead packed a bag full of sfogliatelle ... and headed west.

I don't want to recommend that you sell your house ... your car ... your furniture ... your dog ... and your gun ... and bet the proceeds on Mayan King ... because that'd only drive down his odds.

But ... mark-ye-well what you've read here.


OK, it's 18 mins to post and Mayan King opened at 2-1 (15-1 morning line)... I guess you did bet the dog on this one!!! ;)

Cunningham Racing 07-01-2006 09:57 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
OK, it's 18 mins to post and Mayan King opened at 2-1 (15-1 morning line)... I guess you did bet the dog on this one!!! ;)


BWWAAAHHHAHHAHHAHAAAA!!...I just noticed that to....2-1???...Are you kidding me?...Freaking hilarious...the morning line odds maker there should be shot....:rolleyes:

I was going to bet Mayan King but I'll probably go for Alumi Hall at that price...wow...

zippyneedsawin 07-01-2006 10:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Cunningham Racing
BWWAAAHHHAHHAHHAHAAAA!!...I just noticed that to....2-1???...Are you kidding me?...Freaking hilarious...the morning line odds maker there should be shot....:rolleyes:

I was going to bet Mayan King but I'll probably go for Alumi Hall at that price...wow...


9-1 on Alumni Hall.. not bad... worth taking a shot.

zippyneedsawin 07-01-2006 10:18 PM

Siphon City?? WOW!

my miss storm cat 07-01-2006 10:19 PM

Well at least Three Hour Nap was 2nd.....

Hey Bold, has MK crossed the finish line yet?

Cunningham Racing 07-01-2006 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by zippyneedsawin
Siphon City?? WOW!

Unreal...he went fast early and still finished up powerfully....he spit Mayan King out fair and square and cruised away from Gouldings Green effortlessly...Is this horse for real?...He was cut out to be okay as a half-million dollar purchase...The light must have finally came on...he is a good looking little dude.....Might be a sleeper in the handicap division...I was impressed...

randallscott35 07-01-2006 10:23 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
Does Mayan King even hit the board is a better question?

A resounding no.

prudery 07-01-2006 10:30 PM

Might we click our heels together thrice and say Mayan, Mayan, Mayan, and the imaginary HOY will appear . So much for brilliance and predictions .

randallscott35 07-01-2006 10:33 PM

No problem with making predictions. I give the man credit for sticking his neck out. No shame in that at all. More people should do that instead of redboarding about horses after the fact.

prudery 07-01-2006 10:39 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
No problem with making predictions. I give the man credit for sticking his neck out. No shame in that at all. More people should do that instead of redboarding about horses after the fact.

No problem with what you are saying, but you missed the point. Agree also that after the fact redboarding is lame ,and unsporting as well . Everyone should get credit for bravery in personal convictions, though some seem to have a self-generated surplus .

Bold Brooklynite 07-01-2006 10:57 PM

It was way past his bedtime ... and Gary made a big mistake sharing his sfogliatella with the horse in the paddock. Those things sit like lead in the stomach for hours.

And ... hey ... I never predicted he'd win this race ... I just said he'd be Horse Of The Year ... so we'll just have to wait and see who's right about that.

Ruffian2 07-02-2006 08:50 PM

Never...ever...ever....ever...


doubt Bold's ability to cover his ass. :D

prudery 07-02-2006 10:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Ruffian
Never...ever...ever....ever...


doubt Bold's ability to cover his ass. :D

Do not worry, Mayan King will uncover it failing to be HOY .

NoCarolinaTony 07-02-2006 11:18 PM

You are quite right, At least he stuck his neck out. Redboarding is too easy and very un becomming.

NC Tony

oracle80 07-03-2006 06:44 AM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35
No problem with making predictions. I give the man credit for sticking his neck out. No shame in that at all. More people should do that instead of redboarding about horses after the fact.

Randall is 100% correct about this. Its sickening to me to watch "analysts?" write long winded essays just flowing with hyperbole after a horse wins a race. You would actually think that these folks predicted by the victories that they are writing about, when in fact, no prediction of any kind was ever offered up.
Takes real guts to make a statement BEFORE a race. More folks should attempt this rather than just waiting for a result and then tearing apart those with the guts to put it on the line before the event has occurred.

oracle80 07-03-2006 06:46 AM

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Originally Posted by NoCarolinaTony
You are quite right, At least he stuck his neck out. Redboarding is too easy and very un becomming.

NC Tony

NC Tony, I wish you would post more often. And yes, I agree with the part about the redboarding. I'm seeing a lot of it these days and its just being packaged in a non redboard container. You actually have to read the label on the carton to make sure the redboard is in the box but trust me its there.

Bold Brooklynite 07-03-2006 09:48 AM

So far ...

... I've made dead-on-correct long-range predictions about Smuggler, Bernardini, Songster, Barbaro, Lost In The Fog, and Funny Cide ...

... and my Mayan King prediction is still up for grabs.

I'll stand by that record ... and welcome documentation from others about the results of their long-range predictions.

Redboarders ... however ... can keep their own counsel. Oracle, Randall, and Tony have done a very good job of making that quite clear.

blackthroatedwind 07-03-2006 10:06 AM

I predicted Dynever would be the 3YO champion after he finished second in his debut.

Athletics005 07-03-2006 10:21 AM

You were dead on about Lost in the Fog? I think not...


This "Fraud" has won the following stakes and is still going:

Arizona Juvinile
Sunshine Millions Dash
Swale Stakes
Bay Shore
Riva Ridge
Carry Back
King's Bishop
Aristides

He has won at 9 race tracks, has has won 10 stakes, he has made a million dollars, he has gotten a 97 beyer or higher in every one of his races, he has gotten a beyer above 110 four times, and he has faced decent compeition (Over 12 of the horses he beat came back to win graded stakes, including a track record and and a world record).

But just because he had one off day in which he had a valid excuse for, you claim you were right about him all along. One race does not make a horse. I would be more impressed if you had said he would be a superstar after watching his debut, like I did.

If you make enough predictions, I am sure some will stick.


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