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brockguy 06-01-2007 11:00 AM

just another interesting fact - the last 4 derby winners Sir Percy (3 runs), Motivator (3), North Light (3) and Kris Kin (3) have a combined 0 wins after their Epsom triumph.. You have to go back to High Chaparral to find the last Epsom Derby winner to win a race after the Derby. Well he only won the Irish Derby, Breeders Cup Turf x2 (or 1 1/2), Irish Champion Stakes and the G2 Royal Whip.. some horse..

NoChanceToDance 06-01-2007 11:31 AM

I am starting to think that only slow horses win the Derby these days, and even slower ones win the St Leger.

brockguy 06-01-2007 12:58 PM

Ive backed Lucarno each way - he'll be the wise guy's pick for the Derby I think..

NoChanceToDance 06-01-2007 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Ive backed Lucarno each way - he'll be the wise guy's pick for the Derby I think..

I'd like to see him do well, the ground drying out is good for him, but i'm just concerned about stamina. He is a very good horse in the making.

I have laid Authorized and will probably lay him again tomorrow.

ArlJim78 06-01-2007 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
Ive backed Lucarno each way - he'll be the wise guy's pick for the Derby I think..

Wow, I just downloaded pp's, spent about ten minutes checking them out, and decided to come on here and post that I am picking Lucarno confident that i would be the only person doing so.

What do I find? you're already all over him!

He just looks like a star in the making and has come around very quickly in good order. You always have to watch those Dynaformers.

A Pennsylvania bred to boot!

I know this, I wouldn't be taking any short priced favorite in here.

NoChanceToDance 06-01-2007 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
Wow, I just downloaded pp's, spent about ten minutes checking them out, and decided to come on here and post that I am picking Lucarno confident that i would be the only person doing so.

What do I find? you're already all over him!

He just looks like a star in the making and has come around very quickly in good order. You always have to watch those Dynaformers.

A Pennsylvania bred to boot!

I know this, I wouldn't be taking any short priced favorite in here.

This boy was very impressive last time, he hardly came off the steel to win about 4 wickets.

My worry is him being able to stay 12 furlongs.

A few real shrewdies i know really fancy to collect a Breeder's Cup classic over the next couple of years.

He is a beautiful looking horse with a superb conformation, and to boot, he has a lovely action - so i hope the ground isn't too soft for him.

I'd love to see him in America, he is verging on my "Machine" selection of horses. The maiden he finished second in on his first start is the best maiden of the year and will probably still be the best maiden of the year when we get to the end of the season.

Whatever he does tomorrow, keep the right side of him, this colt is going places.......fast.

The FAV is a massive lay for me...... if he does happen to win, i will need directions to the nearest cliff.

Mortimer 06-01-2007 02:36 PM

Oh never mind.



I'd just get yelled at for it anyways.

brockguy 06-01-2007 03:40 PM

any ideas to why Drowne is on board rather than Havlin? It seems odd to me considering he has ridden him before and he is riding at Epsom earlier on.. The more I look at the field the more I like this fella..

NoChanceToDance 06-01-2007 04:37 PM

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Originally Posted by brockguy
any ideas to why Drowne is on board rather than Havlin? It seems odd to me considering he has ridden him before and he is riding at Epsom earlier on.. The more I look at the field the more I like this fella..

Maybe because Havlin is useless? well he is in my book........

ArlJim78 06-02-2007 08:55 AM

Diomed stakes is next.
i played exacta 1/ 3 4

brockguy 06-02-2007 09:04 AM

the hurdler won it.. he's so versatile..

ground is not as slow as yesterday..

Labeeb 06-02-2007 09:41 AM

Am I the only one that can't get the Racing Post "free" video to work for Epsom? Everytime I try to watch the video, I'm given three pay methods to view.

brockguy 06-02-2007 09:49 AM

The Queen in the parade ring, not too many that have been to Epsom and Kentucky Derbies in the one year..

brockguy 06-02-2007 09:53 AM

trying to beat the 3 favs here, Ive gone for Admiralofthefleet, Lucarno and Soldier of Fortune.. Its so tricky though to decipher those O'Brien 8..

ArlJim78 06-02-2007 10:07 AM

that sounds like a good plan.

i have Lucarno first and second in exactas and tris.
hope he's a good one.

ArlJim78 06-02-2007 10:11 AM

wow! they really get dressed up for this, top hats and all.

philcski 06-02-2007 10:19 AM

I bet Strategic Prince, who was very close to Tefilio and Holy Roman Emperor last year and probably needed his race last out.

brockguy 06-02-2007 10:25 AM

superstar/..

ArlJim78 06-02-2007 10:29 AM

super impressive win by Authorized.

Eagle Mountain second
Aqaleem third
Lucarno fourth

snowdrops 06-02-2007 10:32 AM

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Originally Posted by ArlJim78
super impressive win by Authorized.

Eagle Mountain second
Aqaleem third
Lucarno fourth

I'm absolutely THRILLED that Authorized won! Ahhh, can't wait to see the replay :).

And good job to Eagle Mountain for getting second!! YAY!

Katy


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