i'd rather have the chocolate...you weren't supposed to chew, so at least the chocolate would melt so you don't choke.

How did you come to the conclusion that the question is "what are we supposed to do about Jesus"? What happens to people that never get to read the bible? How did you come to the conclusion that it has to be while you are alive (and what about all the babies that never have a chance to answer that question because they die)? And when you answer this how did you determine that the bible says this is so. Purgatory... where does this idea now stand with all the Christian faiths? Study just the bible, which version, which childrens bibles are more to the real stuff? Who wrote the interpretation of the " best childrens bibles" and how did they come to believe what they were writing was the truth? Were they guided by God in their writings, or did they reason based on what they had read and gave their best honest interpretation?

I got tons more.

lay on your right side, helps empty the stomach....i think it's white wine with popcorn! lol

GR: hope you don't get too sick! That reminds me of the time I went on a liquid fast for 5 weeks for losing weight. So on New Years eve...I treated myself to 8oz of wine and a small bowl of popcorn.....spent 4hrs walking around cuz of the "spins":)

That's exactly why I think it is more important to be a good person than to believe in a higher power...There are jungle cultures right now who have no clue about Jesus or organized religion....Obviously they get a pass right? So how will a "higher power" judge them....Well I would bet that it is based on the totality of their life----if and its an if there is an afterlife.

ben franklin is my hero...and it cracks me up when the whole we are a christian nation look at the founding fathers dialogue starts. t jefferson was accused of being an atheist back then, now he's been redeemed i guess.

You didnt read Romans 2 yet! A little at a time,P...I'm spoon-feeding you:)

Since you brought up Old Ben- in his own words....

To Ezra Stiles, 9 March 1790 (B 12:185-6):

"You desire to know something of my religion. It is the first time I have been questioned upon it. But I cannot take your curiosity amiss, and shall endeavor in a few words to gratify it. Here is my creed. I believe in one God, the creator of the universe. That he governs by his providence. That he ought to be worshipped. That the most acceptable service we render to him is doing good to his other children. That the soul of man is immortal, and will be treated with justice in another life respecting its conduct in this. These I take to be the fundamental points in all sound religion, and I regard them as you do in whatever sect I meet with them.

As to Jesus of Nazareth, my opinion of whom you particularly desire, I think his system of morals and his religion, as he left them to us, the best the world ever saw or is likely to see; but I apprehend it has received various corrupting changes, and I have, with most of the present dissenters in England, some doubts as to his divinity; though it is a question I do not dogmatize upon, having never studied it, and think it needless to busy myself with it now, when I expect soon an opportunity of knowing the truth with less trouble. I see no harm, however, in its being believed, if that belief has the good consequences, as probably it has, of making his doctrines more respected and more observed; especially as I do not perceive that the Supreme takes it amiss, by distinguishing the unbelievers in his government of the world with any peculiar marks of his displeasure."

Repeat after me....reads Romans Chapter 2 in the New Testament. I think it's 15-17 that tells you the answer.

Tim my man, I don't have my bible handy---can you sum up.

Randall: I be right back!

Which version? King James... its all the same?

I want to read the Hebrew version. The oldest stuff I can get my hands on. But you will have to teach me how to read it. The oldest stuff is most likely to be the real word? right? The least altered... I mean English is so new. And it changes so much.

P: they have these places called bookstores....Hebrew,Greek dictionaries and all kinds of explanatory guides!

Oh my God(dess)- if you haven't read the comments on the link I posted, scroll down. Some of them are hilarious. Highlights:

"I guess a Jesus made entirely from Peeps would be unacceptable?"

"Unacceptably delicious."

And:

"Do you think Chocolate Jesus had a caramel center or peanut butter??"

"If you made a white chocolate statue of Jesus with a liquid cherry center then you could use a toothpick to add the stigmata yourself."

I only wish I were that clever... now I'm sick to my stomach AND envious...

Nicole, you need an avatar. That is all.

Yeah, but being a Libra, it'll take me forever to decide on one...

i'll have to go read it, but from what i read here from you, they were listening in at my dinner table the other night...

Can we start a thread for your avatar and include ones we think would work for you? Would be a fun thread.

OK...in summation Romans 2:12-16....Everyone who sins under the Law willed be judged by the Law....not the hearers of the Law,but the doers will be justified....and the Gentiles will be justified(anyone who is not a Jew)...If you don't have the Law, then instinctively you are the Law....meaning holding to the laws of the society you live in...by doing the right things in their hearts they are accused or defended by those laws thereby finding salvation or Hell...to put it in perspective