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philcski 10-22-2008 08:17 AM
Slop

CSC 10-22-2008 08:18 AM
I have the Advance version and it is fine from what I can see.

Smooth Operator 10-22-2008 08:25 AM
Slop

GBBob 10-22-2008 08:29 AM
lol..all together now...

Smooth Operator 10-22-2008 09:51 AM
Actually this could be a great BC...........if Curlie gets trounced...

odbaxter 10-22-2008 10:24 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bid
The upcoming results will punch a hole in any foolishness saying good horses run on anything. I cannot wait to see some of these world beaters get smoked exclusively because of the surface.

I like what Reed Baker said. If you had a horse that had won 10 million on the dirt and you entered him in the Breeders Cup Turf, most people would think you are out of your mind. Thats essentially what all of these people shipping into California are doing. You take a shot because the money is so good, but it will be a day of upside down results. Once again the industry has made themselves look foolish, they cannot control themselves. Especially in California

I will standback and watch a day of false champions run on fake dirt. Its a true disgrace and I hope the Euros Sweep the Cushion Card, and I dont doubt they do exactly that

I will not make one wager
I hope that the Euro's sweep the card as well. But that doesn't have any impact on the quality of the Champion. The Duke, HTN and RP in the Classic are all proven G1 winners against higher class and better quality stock then the US has to offer. How would they be considered a false champion.

Chalky 10-22-2008 11:03 AM
Thanks for the link Djarum. Much appreciated.

hrfan 10-22-2008 11:30 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by CSC
Giant's Causeway ran a heck of a race to Tiznow.
Yes, yes he did

Mike2456 10-22-2008 11:55 AM
Synthetic over slop any day. Much fairer to the horses

jwkniska 10-22-2008 11:59 AM
synthetic. sloppy main tracks account for about 90% of my worst handicapping days ever (and state bred stakes days account for about 9% of the rest).

brianwspencer 10-22-2008 12:55 PM
I'm looking forward to this BC about fifty times more than I looked forward to last year's,

Will take synthetic over soup any day of the week.

Danzig 10-22-2008 01:37 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ddthetide
i'd say the mud/slop and soggy turf.
me too. most turfers seem to relish only a certain kind of ground, so if they like it hard and firm, and it comes up soft, you can start narrowing down the field with confidence.
as for betting on poly with confidence....not so much.

Danzig 10-22-2008 01:38 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by The Bid
The upcoming results will punch a hole in any foolishness saying good horses run on anything. I cannot wait to see some of these world beaters get smoked exclusively because of the surface.

I like what Reed Baker said. If you had a horse that had won 10 million on the dirt and you entered him in the Breeders Cup Turf, most people would think you are out of your mind. Thats essentially what all of these people shipping into California are doing. You take a shot because the money is so good, but it will be a day of upside down results. Once again the industry has made themselves look foolish, they cannot control themselves. Especially in California

I will standback and watch a day of false champions run on fake dirt. Its a true disgrace and I hope the Euros Sweep the Cushion Card, and I dont doubt they do exactly that

I will not make one wager
i would agree with his take on that.

Danzig 10-22-2008 01:40 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by Pedigree Ann
This is not entirely true. I was over there in Britain for a year (just returned in August) and there were some spells when the rain was scarce and the ground was pretty firm. As I recall, the entire Ascot meet was conducted on firm ground; horses were scratched because they didn't like 'to hear their feet rattle.'

but don't they water the courses? i seem to remember reading that one group was ticked off because they felt that the course got watered too much, which benefitted the o'brien entry....
and yeah, they don't like it firm over there, which was my point that most over there like it deep-and send their firm loving horses here to find ground to suit them.

alysheba4 10-22-2008 03:00 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Miesque, High Chaparral, Fantastic Light, Theatrical, Kalanisi, Daylami, Pebbles, Lashkari, Pilsudski, Red Rocks, Shirocco, Barathea, Miss Alleged, Tikkanen, In the Wings, Ouija Board, Islington, Six Perfections, Banks Hill, Domedriver, Spinning World, Ridgewood Pearl and Last Tycoon, not to mention Rock of Gibraltar, Bago, Azamour, etc. would all like to see this article.
.......thats some list of horses......pilsudski set me free......

my miss storm cat 10-22-2008 04:45 PM
BC singles and tosses
 
Just incase there aren't yet enough BC threads, who are you tossing?

Who is a lock?

Play nice in the sandbox kids. :D

My single is Cocoa Beach, still working on my toss list.

2 Dollar Bill 10-22-2008 05:06 PM
Quote:
Originally Posted by my miss storm cat
Just incase there aren't yet enough BC threads, who are you tossing?

Who is a lock?
My buddie who is in prison........ Jimmie A. Lock ! :D :p

Hickory Hill Hoff 10-22-2008 05:07 PM
Friday.....
Halfway to Heaven & Zenyatta - SINGLES
Doremifasollatido & Dynaforce - TOSS

Saturday.....
Goldikova & Street Boss - SINGLES
Black Seventeen & Red Rocks - TOSS

letswastemoney 10-22-2008 06:11 PM
Tiago is a lock :)

miraja2 10-22-2008 06:15 PM
I think the two best singles on the Friday card are in the juvy races:
Stardom Bound in the juvy fillies, and Laragh in the juvy fillies turf.

Of horses that will probably take some money, I think Intangaroo is a toss in the Filly and Mare Sprint. She appears to be much better on the dirt than synthetics, and if the race sets up well for her in terms of pace, it will also set up well for Ventura, who I like a lot more.


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