This thread has taken a bad turn. Really, a Delonte West vs. Trevor Ariza debate? Really?

exactly. thats what i said a while ago. they are about the same player. no?

Very much so. Just like about 100 other guys.

exactly.

Okay. better subject.

The cavs don't have a single player that can score in the post. I dont remember a team that would be considered a viable contender lacking such a traditionally important component to an offense.

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"Like....I'm sayin'....My tame is good, man!!"

Speak for yourself. :)

This Andersen kid is really something. The recovery stuff is heart warming but this mother is a bad ass on the boards. Denver has some real characters on this team....

Trevor Ariza
3 points
1 rebound
1 assist
26 minutes

hell Radmanovic could have done that!

Trevor Ariza game 1

20 points
3 rebounds
4 steals
2 assists
6-7 from the field.

One game.

See other thread :)

"Ariza" seems so much like a brand name for a food product(artificial sweetener,cooking oil etc.,) or a chain of weight-loss centers. In other words, it sounds made up.

He is an imposter

Yea, no telling what ESPN would find out if they conduct one of their famous "CLOSER LOOKS."

Ok.
So maybe Denver does not need Anthony.


Is it wise for Denver players to chicken walk
after hitting a three...

Denver seems to me on the verge of exploding.
They are trying so hard to keep the thug play
down, but its steaming to the surface.

Is it smart to do a look back trip on Kobe
when he is going full steam to the basket...

Is it wise to push Kobe in the back with two hands
when he is going full steam to the basket...

Jump Shooter LeBron = 0 championships.

And lets face it the guy is a moron so he's not going to change the way he plays the game.

I guess we have to add Reggie Miller and Kenny Smith to the group that says Lebron isnt guarding rafer alston. Its either that or he CANT guard him. Rafer Alston had 26 points tonight and 18 the night before. This is one of the worst point guards in the NBA...a guy that was given away midseason by another playoff team for a backup.

I love being vindicated. :)

Always a pleasure to hear from perhaps the only perfect human being ever to live.

Fine, do you really want this explained to you?? It is not rocket science. The simple difference maker in this series is Mo Williams. The Cavs were so devoid of talent, he was considered the final piece to aid LeBron. LeBron's Pippen. To compare a guy like Mo Williams to Pippen is absurd but it is what it is. He had a great regular season shooting 47 percent and was a 44 percent 3 point shooter.

This series, their 2nd best player is shooting 23 for 71...32 percent and 6 for 27 from 3...22 percent (and one of those made 3s was a 65 footer...take that one away and the 44 percent season 3 point shooter is shooting under 20 percent this series.). That's it. That is what is wrong. For them to be playing every game to the wire with their number 2 guy doing pretty much zero speaks to just how well LeBron is playing this series. To have your number 2 scorer and one of the best 3 point shooters in the league shooting half of his 82 game 3 point percentage is not a recipe for Cavalier playoff success. LeBron did turn the ball over a ton in game 4 late which certainly played a role in the loss, but the biggest problem this series has been Mo Williams. He's a poor defensive player. His singular purpose is to be the complementary offensive player for LeBron and he performed that role tremendously in the regular season. And to say LeBron is not getting him the ball would be a gross mis-statement. Mo is getting 18 shots a game this series....7 threes a game. He is what has killed them this series. Then he goes and shoots his mouth off making guarantees trying to ignite something and he goes out and shoots his obligatory 5 for 15 and 0 for 3 from three point range. He was beyond depressed after the game, he knows it is all on him. He is the problem so far.

LeBron series shooting 56 for 110, 51 percent....rest of team 90 of 220, 41 percent. 3 point series shooting. LeBron 9 for 27, 33 percent. Rest of team 15 for 65, 23 percent. Magic shooting 43 percent from 3 this series. Cleveland 26 percent. Cleveland was a better shooting 3 point team than Orlando this year. 39 percent to 38 percent. So basically what you have is one of the top 3 three point shooting teams in the league shooting terribly. LeBron is the only one shooting close to his season percentage from long range. They're a JUMP SHOOTING team. That's what they became this year. They improved their offense by leaps and bounds. That's why they went from a 45 to 50 win regular season team to a 66 win team this year. They are simply not shooting well this series. Whether that's Orlando's defense is debatable. I've seen them miss numerous wide open looks...I mean wide open. They're not shooting this series. Mo Williams is the biggest cuplrit. Not jump shooting LeBron. Those are the facts. Facts are always debatable however when you are dealing with perfect human beings but I did my best. I know what's going on this series. I was the only person on this thread in mid April to pick Orlando to reach the finals. I know how Cleveland plays against them. They struggle. They are actually playing Orlando much better this series than they did in the regular season or the last 3 years. In all honestly, despite my whining and crying, Orlando is lucky to be up 3-1, but they are. As poorly as Cleveland is shooting from long range, and as great as Orlando is shooting from long range, cleveland had legitimate chances to win 3 of the 4 games this series.

Thanks for your help though. None of us...me, LeBron, nor Mo will ever reach perfection as you have. Sorry. Back to regularly scheduled programming.

In the first half Lebron was guarding Alston at one point. I heard them say it on the darn tv.

You just couldnt tell cause Alston was wide open the whole game it looked like nobody was guarding him.

Thats exactly what i have been saying the whole thread. Lebron is playing a one man zone. Orlando has made significant adjustments to attack that defense and now alston looks like he is actually a player instead of a bum that was picked up midseason for garbage.

Alston actually drove right past lebron a couple of times when he was standing in front of him (i wouldnt call it guarding him).

So its either Lebron can't guard him or he isnt guarding him. There is no other way Rafer Alston scores 26 points in a playoff game or even the 18 the game before.