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It will be an easy "G1" victory for Chrome then against that field.
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Are they gonna keep the horse wide to avoid trouble at all costs on the turf also?Not a fan of that kind of trip, but this field isn't the toughest either.
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If he does beat this weak field.. Will it be enough to clinch HOY or even 3 yr of the year?
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I'll be there in person to see it happen :D from TRD clocker California Chrome 11/23 DMR/FM 4F 52.0b Appeared very comfortable over the local lawn despite many people sharing their two-cents on how slow the drill was. The work was a perfect introduction to grass & this colt will love the change in footing. 13 4/5, 26 3/5. Final ¼ in 25 2/5 while under a strangle hold. Just finished watching him galloping on Thanksgiving morning @ 7:00 AM on the grass & my opinion stays the same. The 2 time classic winner may be better on the grass. |
Hollywood Derby: Is California Chrome racing for HOY?
Does a win today from California Chrome seal up horse of the year for him?
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No chance.
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Some voters count up G1s as the same no matter if they're 2 year olds, females, weak fields etc.
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Denman should be gagged :p
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What I can say as a fan, it was fantastic to be there in person. The crowd went wild !
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Destroyed?
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I think he has to win the the three year old title, regardless of what happened today.
He had the best "three year old" campaign without argument, this season. He won the He lost to Bayern in the PA Derby that was meant as nothing more than a prep for the BC Classic. He lost to Bayern in the Classic by a small margin, with an asterisk. This race should have nothing to do with the outcome of any eclipse voting. Same as if Bayern or Shared Belief run and win the Malibu. Today was an exhibition. I think Chrome was the best three year old from start to finish. As for Horse of the Year. You can't give it to a four race campaigned grass horse. So, I think he has a shot but I would give horse of the year to Bayer. I know that seems hypocritical but that's how I would vote. Chrome won the three year old races so why not award him for that. Bayern won the big boy race (regardless of the rough running of the race, he won) so why not give him the prize for winning that race. I think that is just. Hopefully they all meet stay healthy and meet again in next years classic. |
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He is going to win, the Derby and Preakness just carry much more weight, and he destroyed Bayern in that race. I would also add lots of voters dont even think he was best in that classic.
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So if you declare a race a prep, it should not count? Baffert was playing catch up with Bayern all spring. That was his Derby horse. So when he finally gets the horse ready, everything it wins is discounted? He not only beat all of the males left standing at the end, he also has a win over the Champion Female for 2014, Untapable. Which means more that some grass race win over a Canadian filly that is a poly/turf runner, Chrome did not beat the filly that ran faster than him at Churchill Downs that weekend.
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This past weekend's results surely helped California Chrome's case. Not only did he win a late-year Grade I, eliminating the argument that he didn't win a race after May, but the Clark Handicap was won by the Santa Anita Derby runner-up. While Bayern had an admirable campaign by today's standards, I have a hard time bestowing championship laurels on a horse that performed as dismally as he did in the Travers, and was a non-factor in the Preakness.
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:zz:grade 1 race, that turf race was more like an opt claimer, should have NO impact on Championship, just look at the filed in that race,it is a digrace to call it a grade 1
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I dont get why people want to minimize everything California Chrome has done.. He is one of only 32 horses in the history of horse racing to win the Derby and Preakness.... let me say that again:
He is 1 of only 32 horses to ever win the Derby and the Preakness... Thats an accomplishment. Sure he lost a chunk of his foot out the gate at Belmont and failed to win the Triple Crown but something always goes wrong at Belmont... dont it? He will win horse of the year. Mark it down... its really not debatable. unless you want to minimize the validity of the triple crown season. because thats what your doing in saying he wont win it. no other horse has totally jumped off the page which I believe you gotta do if you are gonna over take a horse that wins 2 of the 3 triple crown races on a side not using the law of averages snce we got 2 derby favs as winnes the past 2 years... think maybe we get a bomb this year? all handicapping out the window just working off of the law of averages.... Just Saying... |
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Do I want him to win? YES. Do I think he deserves to win? YES. Will he? No. Bayern will. I would rather see Dan win again or hell... Demonstrative (won the Turf Writers and the Lonesome Glory and 2nd in the Smithwick and don't worry I know that won't be happening. Just saying I would prefer him to Bayern). Bayern is a very good horse who, like CC, ran at different tracks and all year. The thing that no one is mentioning (and I don't believe it's the deciding factor BUT I think it might make it easier for people not to vote for him) is his idiotic owners bitch-fit of a rant... the finest example of poor sportsmanship I have ever witnessed in my life. What an embarrassment. Love Chrome and always will. Hope I'm wrong but I think we should live with the reality that Bayern might pull a Bayern and steal this (too). Hey I kept my mouth shut after the Classic... gotta say it one time. |
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I am a big Bayern fan as I am with Chrome but Bayern's resume dont stack up. its just dont... now i cant wait for the 4 year old season next year there is gonna be some really good racing.... really really good (takes another puff from crack pipe) --- just kidding.. always appreciate a good ole crack pipe comment |
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Regarding the 4 year old seasons... again, try not to count on it cause anything can happen. I hope I'm wrong on all counts. |
Am I correct that Chrome ran the last 3/8 in 36 1/5 seconds? Is that pretty slow for a Grade I?
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12-24-36-48-1:00-1:12-1:24-1:36-1:48-2:00. the defense rests |
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