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randallscott35 10-12-2013 06:49 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 948889)
Peterson's son, 2, dies after alleged assault

http://espn.go.com/nfl/story/_/id/98...leged-assault?

Just awful.

Horrific. There will be jailhouse justice for this guy.

Rudeboyelvis 10-14-2013 11:42 AM

In what should be the final nail in Schiano's NFL career coffin - The NFLPA has now publicly stated, on the record, that they firmly believe that Schiano was the source of the leak which led to Josh freeman's personal information and subsequent voluntary enrollment in the NFL's substance abuse program getting out.


http://www.cbssports.com/nfl/eye-on-...d-freeman-info


You'd think that 0-5 with no signs of life, and yet again another completely unprepared football team taking the field would be enough - I don't see how this charlatan lasts the week.

Duvalier 10-19-2013 10:05 AM

Really disappointing effort from the Bucs last week coming off the bye. I really thought with them getting rid of the Freeman distraction, having two weeks to get Glennon prepared, this team would look much improved. Glennon did...but at the same time Schiano's defense looked terrible and the penalties keep piling up from a rather undisciplined looking team especially on the offensive line.

No excuses this week...the Falcons are really banged up. With a short week coming up for the Thurs night Panther game and a trip to Seattle the following week...Schiano better start turning things around in a hurry.

ateamstupid 10-24-2013 10:35 AM

http://www.nfl.com/news/story/0ap200...tocratic-style

The guy should be fired yesterday.

randallscott35 10-24-2013 11:33 AM

Yep he is a sick puppy.

MaTH716 10-25-2013 08:33 AM

I would be shocked if he made it through the weekend.

Rudeboyelvis 10-25-2013 09:31 AM

He will. This ownership really has no valid options as all of the horrible coaches are Schiano's hires as well. There is no incentive for the coaching staff to put any effort into the rest of the season by backing an interim hire knowing they're all canned afterward anyway.

I've never seen such a mess.

Billboard outside Raymond James Stadium:


randallscott35 10-25-2013 09:32 AM

He's done enough?

randallscott35 11-04-2013 01:04 PM

:$:http://www.nj.com/news/index.ssf/201...l#incart_river

randallscott35 11-12-2013 07:39 AM

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Patrick333 11-12-2013 11:43 AM

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Only if he has the same agent he had at Rutgers.

Rudeboyelvis 11-12-2013 11:54 AM

At least the entire country can now see how inept and unable to adapt to change this entire coaching staff is. They were lucky to escape the 2nd half.

The team has legit talent, and Glennon is not as bad as you'd think.

Unfortunately, they are constantly being weighted down by a 2nd rate collegiate coaching staff masquerading as an NFL squad.

declansharbor 11-12-2013 04:51 PM

I'm surprised we haven't heard a story or two about dissension in the ranks, seeing how everybody involved knows that this guy isn't in the NFL next year.

randallscott35 11-17-2013 03:44 PM

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Patrick333 11-19-2013 10:23 AM

Just wondering how much more money Tampa Bay is going to pay Schiano with his extension.

Danzig 11-19-2013 10:26 AM

will schiano be the first coach fired this year?

randallscott35 11-19-2013 10:45 AM

After nearly beating Seattle and winning the last 2 games? I doubt it

Rudeboyelvis 11-19-2013 11:22 AM

It will be interesting to see them actually face a real team. Once again, they have a 31-6 lead, and the game gets way more interesting than it ever possibly should have.

I'm definitely getting more and more impressed with Glennon, and should he continue to improve each week, may just be their answer at QB. But the week in and week out display of asinine penalties and the fact that they cannot close the door in the 2nd half are glaring indicators that he has deeper problems within his coaching staff that he's incapable of addressing or dealing with.

Stickhorse 11-20-2013 04:21 PM

Six games left for the Bucs and most likely for Schiano too.

at Lions- likely LOSS

at Panthers- certain LOSS

Bills- shot for a WIN

49ers- likely LOSS

at Rams- likely LOSS

at Saints- certain LOSS since Saints want home field for the playoffs

The only real hope is that teams look right past the Bucs which is what happened in Seattle; to the players credit they have not quit. Schiano is getting $3 million a year at Tampa and his Rutgers package was $2.3 a year when he left which really surprised me. Greg Schiano has pulled down a awful money in his coaching career but one would think he'll have a hard time getting back to the Rutgers pay scale anytime soon.

randallscott35 11-24-2013 03:08 PM

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Once again, showing the haters up. This game wasn't even as close as the final score shows.

Duvalier 11-24-2013 03:20 PM

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Originally Posted by randallscott35 (Post 955168)
Once again, showing the haters up. This game wasn't even as close as the final score shows.

Freeman was the problem from the start

MISTERGEE 11-27-2013 12:53 PM

i have a feeling that sometime soon the name of this thread will be change to "schianno coach of the year 2014 watch"

Rudeboyelvis 11-27-2013 02:16 PM

I'll give credit where credit is due - but first you have to decide whether this victory was a result of Stafford having a horrific day, or you're convinced that a total of 10 first downs and 20 yards of rushing is enough to compete and win in the NFL on a weekly basis.

They are the most penalized team in the NFL and still have no idea how to fix it.
Glennon is the real deal so far, they expand the playbook each week and he's responded - two excellent down field throws for large gains, and the bench is deep on both sides of the ball. The team is built to win now, and as I've said before, has playoff caliber talent.

Maybe he just needs the entire season to figure it out - who knows?

Danzig 12-06-2013 12:18 PM

and gary kubiak receives the ignominious prize as first nfl coach to be fired this season. even suffering a mini stroke didn't grant him a reprieve.
a qb can kill a coaches career.

Patrick333 12-11-2013 07:33 AM

A couple more wins and Schiano might survive.

Danzig 12-11-2013 09:24 AM

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Originally Posted by Patrick333 (Post 956746)
A couple more wins and Schiano might survive.

certainly has made a turnaround since freeman left. very telling. he may well outlast jason garrett.

Rudeboyelvis 12-11-2013 10:54 AM

One thing that he absolutely must be commended for is that through all of this adversity, the team has not quit on him. Not of a second.

Unfortunately in every measurement - given the level of talent, the team is woefully under performing - they still lead the league in penalties, and they still struggle to make 2nd half adjustments to close a game out. Buffalo is a bad team. Atlanta is a bad team. Matt Stafford had one of the worse days of his career that attributed to the Detroit win (20 total offensive rushing yds and 10 first downs gets you killed 99.99% of the time - welcome to any given Sunday).

This week is his test. He has the 49er's at home. A team that is now fighting for a wildcard. On paper, the two match up well - obviously Glennon is no Kapernick, but Tampa's secondary is better and the D line is beginning to develop something resembling a pass rush.

Should be an exciting game to watch - if they play like they belong on the field with them, not necessarily win, but at least look like they can compete - he may well have done enough to redeem himself.

If we get the same menu of bone-headed broken coverages, bad personal fouls at inopportune times, procedure penalties, too many men/not enough men on the field, et al, It should be the tipping point I'd imagine.

Duvalier 12-11-2013 11:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 956768)
One thing that he absolutely must be commended for is that through all of this adversity, the team has not quit on him. Not of a second.

Unfortunately in every measurement - given the level of talent, the team is woefully under performing - they still lead the league in penalties, and they still struggle to make 2nd half adjustments to close a game out. Buffalo is a bad team. Atlanta is a bad team. Matt Stafford had one of the worse days of his career that attributed to the Detroit win (20 total offensive rushing yds and 10 first downs gets you killed 99.99% of the time - welcome to any given Sunday).

This week is his test. He has the 49er's at home. A team that is now fighting for a wildcard. On paper, the two match up well - obviously Glennon is no Kapernick, but Tampa's secondary is better and the D line is beginning to develop something resembling a pass rush.

Should be an exciting game to watch - if they play like they belong on the field with them, not necessarily win, but at least look like they can compete - he may well have done enough to redeem himself.

If we get the same menu of bone-headed broken coverages, bad personal fouls at inopportune times, procedure penalties, too many men/not enough men on the field, et al, It should be the tipping point I'd imagine.

What are your thoughts on the O-Line? To me, they have really underperformed this year. Joseph looks like he hasn't fully recovered from his injuries and Penn along with the others are just getting beat up front game after game. That along with the non talent at WR other than Jackson is what really has impressed me about Mike Glennon so far. He has been playing well in his first year despite the fact he has had no offensive weapons...(what are they on their 4th string RB) and a porous offensive line.

Rudeboyelvis 12-11-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 956769)
What are your thoughts on the O-Line? To me, they have really underperformed this year. Joseph looks like he hasn't fully recovered from his injuries and Penn along with the others are just getting beat up front game after game. That along with the non talent at WR other than Jackson is what really has impressed me about Mike Glennon so far. He has been playing well in his first year despite the fact he has had no offensive weapons...(what are they on their 4th string RB) and a porous offensive line.

They are getting old and are beat up. Missing Carl Nicks for the season due to the MERSA thing hurt them deeply. The rest of the starters are playing through pain (like everyone else in the league I assume) but are suffering additionally from having to defend from a scaled back, vanilla playbook due to the rookie QB which doesn't help their cause as the reads are easy to pick up, coupled with the learning curve of Glennon picking up blitz packages effectively.

Losing Mike Williams early basically put V. Jackson in double coverage all year. On a positive note, the decision by Mark Domenick to not address the TE position in the offseason should have been a nightmare, but the rookie out of Rutgers, Tim Wright has effectively bailed his asz out of a tight spot.

The back up RB's (we're on our 3rd stringer) are playing admirably well considering. In fact they may have a bargaining chip to adress the line in the off season, or spread the wealth around next year to keep Martin in one piece for a whole season.


They are only a few pieces away from being a top caliber team - not convinced that we can say that about the coaching staff yet.

Duvalier 12-11-2013 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 956776)
The back up RB's (we're on our 3rd stringer) are playing admirably well considering. In fact they may have a bargaining chip to adress the line in the off season, or spread the wealth around next year to keep Martin in one piece for a whole season.

Martin, James, Leonard and then Rainey...who they were lucky to sign off waivers from the Browns prior to the Miami game. Leonard got most of the carries when James went down against the Dolphins and started the next week against Atlanta but was pretty much ineffective. Once Rainey took over, that was pretty much it...I think he ran for over 160 yds that game and has gotten the bulk of the carries since.

With the way their record stands now, they're not going to be in a position to draft a QB in the first round. Hopefully they take Jake Matthews out of A&M with their first pick.

Rudeboyelvis 12-11-2013 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier (Post 956796)
Martin, James, Leonard and then Rainey...who they were lucky to sign off waivers from the Browns prior to the Miami game. Leonard got most of the carries when James went down against the Dolphins and started the next week against Atlanta but was pretty much ineffective. Once Rainey took over, that was pretty much it...I think he ran for over 160 yds that game and has gotten the bulk of the carries since.

With the way their record stands now, they're not going to be in a position to draft a QB in the first round. Hopefully they take Jake Matthews out of A&M with their first pick.

They're still using Leonard as a starting FB and as an occasional 3rd down RB. Too early to tell what they are going to address though the team is built to win now so I wouldn't rule out a trade for QB with the pick and using what's left after the Revis deal to address the O-line issues

Duvalier 12-22-2013 02:58 PM

Tampa's O-Line is absolutely horrible

Danzig 12-22-2013 03:13 PM

rex ryan supposedly told his team last night that he's getting fired.

jms62 12-22-2013 04:52 PM

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rex ryan supposedly told his team last night that he's getting fired.

There just isn't enough offensive talent on that team. He will land on his feet.

Danzig 12-22-2013 05:30 PM

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There just isn't enough offensive talent on that team. He will land on his feet.

yeah, he needs to stay a DC. i also think schwartz is going to be let go.

MaTH716 12-23-2013 08:00 AM

For what its worth, Peter King on FNIA last night said, that he thought Greg Schiano did enough to retain his job in Tampa.

Danzig 12-23-2013 09:00 AM

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Originally Posted by MaTH716 (Post 958249)
For what its worth, Peter King on FNIA last night said, that he thought Greg Schiano did enough to retain his job in Tampa.

i could see him getting another year, since they did manage to win a few after freemans departure.

Rudeboyelvis 12-24-2013 09:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 958253)
i could see him getting another year, since they did manage to win a few after freemans departure.

It will come down to who's available and if that candidate is a fit. They won't can him without a better alternative. But to say he's done enough to earn a 2nd chance is ludicrous. If he's back next year, it will simply be because there were no viable alternatives available, not because he earned it by any stretch of the imagination IMO.

If Rex Ryan becomes available, he'll be here I'm sure.

randallscott35 12-24-2013 09:43 AM

You can have Rex. He ****ing sucks.

Greg has done enough.

Rudeboyelvis 12-24-2013 10:52 AM

Multiple sources reporting that he's has contacted Penn State and is considered a top candidate to replace bill O'brien should he leave for the NFL


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