Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 934612)

The stars and selections are from Timeform (UK) and really have little to do with the content in the PPs. Not really my area but I know this is being addressed.

Originally Posted by dino (Post 934563)

Looks like a great site but Internet Explorer won't work. Tough eliminating 25% of the market.

Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 934637)

Make that 55% but you having worked in the industry for 30+ already know that. A typo I guess. On another note I would think these guys are on the ball and are targeting the mobile market and html-5 so any issues with IE now are likely to disappear with upgraded versions of IE offering more HTML5 support.

Originally Posted by dino (Post 934639)

Non-mobile web browser statistics on Wikimedia

Chrome   46.02%
Internet Explorer   20.47%
Firefox   17.71%
Others   7.25%
Opera   5.45%


I guess I overstated it's usage. If you make it up to Saratoga this summer you should drop me a private note and maybe we can discuss all your nasty comments to me. Doubt that will happen

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 934533)

That's a great question.

The pace projector is based off of past pace figures and running styles.

Blinkers are generally a speed enhancer and can sometimes fire up a horse early on, but they come in different cup sizes and it's very tough to quantify how much of an impact they will have on a horses early speed.

The pace projector is nice because it gives a quick and clean look at how the pace is expected to unfold based on past data... but it does not take into account the human factor or equipment changes like 1st blinkers. That part, is left up to the bettor.

The human factor is the other main thing that's hard to quantify. Jockeys, either by their own choice or by trainer instruction, can hustle a horse early and get it to show uncharacteristic levels of early speed. Just as they can grab a hold of the horse, and rate it along through the early stages, going much slower than it typically would.

If a jockey/trainer thinks that a race is paceless or thinks that the track is speed biased... they're more likely to ride aggressive early. In situations where the pace figures to be contested, and the strongest horses are mid-pack or closer types...you'll often see multiple jockeys trying to hold their horses through the early stages.

Basically, the human factor and equipment changes are left up to the bettor.

A great example of the usefulness of the pace projector in a high profile race just happened with the Queen's Plate last Sunday:



At just a glance, it was crystal clear that Midnight Aria was projected to be absolutely isolated on a loose early lead. As it turned out, he was able to glide along on a loose early lead with no pressure. Midnight Aria parlayed the perfect trip into a wire-to-wire win at 16/1 odds.

Originally Posted by tector (Post 934631)

OMG, get a life people--your frigging identity is bound up with your browser? IE has been losing market share like forever. And as PCs fade away, it will only continue. Does anybody have IE on their phone or tablet?

JHC.

Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 934677)

apparently a glitch in the system

"During this Beta period, the Pace Projector is only available for tracks purchased through the TVG Handicapping Store, and for the two free Races of the Day."

I did - but it doesn't give it to you.

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 934682)

Which card? I'll send them to you and let the guys in NYC know.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 934753)

Just spent some time playing with it on an iPad and iPhone- definitely great on the iPad. It's tougher on the iPhone because I am Old and my eyes can't read tiny type any more- I imagine most bettors will be viewing on tablets or laptops, but if you're intent is for people to use it on smartphones as well (so they don't need a wifi connection to access the web), it might be worth creating a mobile version geared for viewing on phones.

But that's just one opinion. I had a really fun time exploring the site and can't wait for the full launch. Congrats and amazing work!

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 934773)

Pretty sure the plan is to develop some phone friendly apps.

Originally Posted by Storm Cadet (Post 934790)

It already does great on my I phone 5

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 934794)

Same for me, it looks great on the I Phone 5.

Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 934831)

I have the 4S; can you take a screen cap of what it looks like on your phone and post it? I'm really curious to see if looks different than on the 4S.

Originally Posted by 10 pnt move up (Post 934836)

Just tried it on my 4S and seems to function pretty cool, definitely a neat product from that standpoint.

Originally Posted by Dugout (Post 935356)

$1.50 a racecard
$3.99 Unlimited daily access
$49.99 monthly

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 935504)

Went live today, available directly through TimeformUS now.

Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 935648)

shouldn't it be obvious how to sign up or log in ?

Originally Posted by pweizer (Post 935661)

Can I ask again about the spotlight numbers and the star ratings now that you are live? In the free race today (Del Mar 5), the 7 horse had a 10 point edge in the spotlight number suggesting that the horse laid over the field. However, the 6 horse was the only five star in the field (and the race winner at short odds).

Do either of these metrics have value and how do you suggest they should be used?

Paul

Originally Posted by Calzone Lord (Post 935669)

Here's sort of a recent highlight reel race for the Spotlight Figures in a big race, last Saturday's Virgina Derby:



The horse with the top spotlight figure, War Dancer won and paid $16.80. Charming Kitten had the second best and finished 2nd. Jack Milton had the third best and finished 3rd. So, it was essentially a $356 cold trifecta for the spotlight figs.

Still, in most cases, the human brain is way better than the computer.

In your case, Paul, you're way better off determining for yourself which figures are representative figures. If you're someone who isn't an experienced, or you're in a hurry, the computerized system does a pretty good job of isolating figures that are representative for a horse in non-unusual situations. Like situations not involving layoffs, important trainer changes, or surface switches.

Originally Posted by hondo (Post 935701)

Looks like I will get intimately familiar with these ea lot faster....I just found out that TVG has these free all summer for Saratoga, Delmar and Monmouth....I guess a benefit finally. :D


"Experience TimeformUS for free from July 17th thru September 4th and get all the information you need to heat up the action at Del Mar, Monmouth Park and Saratoga."
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I used this last week and will use it today again....Love the information and it this looks great. Though more advanced it good to see something new... kind of reminds me when the short lived Racing Times came out. I can't wait for the additions planned for deluxe PPs, particularly pace figures. Keep up the good work guys.:tro: