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Clip-Clop 03-18-2013 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 919707)
Other than Chuck Simon, does anyone over 30 even watch the NBA anymore?

I watch at the Pepsi Center, but only at the Pepsi Center. TV and NBA is a horrible combo.

herkhorse 03-18-2013 02:53 PM

yea well, I was mostly joking.


I like to watch The Knicks on MSG network and then pretend it's an infomercial for Just for Men Gel.

No Play for Mr. Grey

Cannon Shell 03-19-2013 06:08 PM

I feel like i have season tickets for the Pittsburgh Penguins. Seems like every game is on NHL network, NBC or NBC sports channel

declansharbor 03-19-2013 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 919960)
I feel like i have season tickets for the Pittsburgh Penguins. Seems like every game is on NHL network, NBC or NBC sports channel

Agreed. NBC definitely hitched their wagon to that team this year.

In typical Philly fashion, JVR goes elsewhere and explodes! That one hurts bc we never gave him a shot to fully recover here, just shipped him away (although i do like Luke Schenn).

3kings 03-19-2013 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 919967)
Agreed. NBC definitely hitched their wagon to that team this year.

In typical Philly fashion, JVR goes elsewhere and explodes! That one hurts bc we never gave him a shot to fully recover here, just shipped him away (although i do like Luke Schenn).

Schenn and Timonen have played well but the rest of the defense is awful. Bryz doesn't come up with the big save often enough and lets in to many bad goals. I'm sorry to say they will not make the playoffs this year. They are going to buy out Bryz this summer and the search for a goalie continues. I would like to see them trade for the Kings Bernier.

Cannon Shell 03-20-2013 10:10 AM

Admittedly I am not a big hockey follower but the Flyers have to be the most inconsistent team in the NHL. One period they will look like world beaters then the next they are awful.

Danzig 03-20-2013 12:14 PM

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Originally Posted by declansharbor (Post 919967)
Agreed. NBC definitely hitched their wagon to that team this year.

In typical Philly fashion, JVR goes elsewhere and explodes! That one hurts bc we never gave him a shot to fully recover here, just shipped him away (although i do like Luke Schenn).

caps just played the pens last night. the gushing about crosby gets nauseating. he had an assist on their first goal-i don't think they ever mentioned the actual scorer.

declansharbor 03-20-2013 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 920010)
Admittedly I am not a big hockey follower but the Flyers have to be the most inconsistent team in the NHL. One period they will look like world beaters then the next they are awful.

Yup. A few weeks ago they played (and won) a GREAT hard fought game against the Pens only to look like $hit against the FLORIDA PANTHERS the very next game. Frustrating.

declansharbor 03-20-2013 02:13 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 919969)
Schenn and Timonen have played well but the rest of the defense is awful. Bryz doesn't come up with the big save often enough and lets in to many bad goals. I'm sorry to say they will not make the playoffs this year. They are going to buy out Bryz this summer and the search for a goalie continues. I would like to see them trade for the Kings Bernier.

The search continues lol...Let's hope Homer isn't in charge of that decision! I'm through with settling for the 'best goalie NOT in the NHL (like Roman Checkmanic), this city deserves something better than creampuff Bryz! Gives up WAY too many rebounds and weak goals.

All of my Flyers-Faithful friends seem to think they'll make the playoffs. I hear crap about having a differing opinion, much like last year when i predicted the Phils to have a bad year! You can't expect to get better when you stay stagnant in FA while the other teams in your division make moves to become markedly better. (At least Homer TRIED to bring in Weber, Parise, and others. It just didnt work out.)

Cannon Shell 03-22-2013 06:47 PM

Penguins on NHL network again

herkhorse 03-24-2013 08:15 AM

and Flyers Pens tonight.



The Heat now have the second most impressive active streak in the NBA.

Clip-Clop 03-25-2013 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 920633)
and Flyers Pens tonight.



The Heat now have the second most impressive active streak in the NBA.

Nuggets are sick.

Cannon Shell 03-25-2013 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 920633)
and Flyers Pens tonight.



The Heat now have the second most impressive active streak in the NBA.

That OT goal was probably the final nail in the Flyers coffin

RockHardTen1985 03-25-2013 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by herkhorse (Post 920633)
and Flyers Pens tonight.



The Heat now have the second most impressive active streak in the NBA.


Your insane if you actually believe this. One team is OK at best. With a ceiling of second round exit. The other team is going to go down as one of the all time great teams ever. With one of the all time great players ever. And a top 3 SG ever.
Come on man!

Clip-Clop 03-25-2013 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 920839)
Your insane if you actually believe this. One team is OK at best. With a ceiling of second round exit. The other team is going to go down as one of the all time great teams ever. With one of the all time great players ever. And a top 3 SG ever.
Come on man!

An OK team of nobodies that keeps on winning (despite injuries) is more impressive than the team everyone expects to win. How often do the Heat go in as a dog?

Dahoss 03-25-2013 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 920855)
An OK team of nobodies that keeps on winning (despite injuries) is more impressive than the team everyone expects to win. How often do the Heat go in as a dog?

Without taking anything away from the Heat's streak, which has been remarkable, (and taking into account I just briefly looked) it looks like they have been favored in 67 of 70 games this year.

herkhorse 03-25-2013 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 920839)
Your insane if you actually believe this. One team is OK at best. With a ceiling of second round exit. The other team is going to go down as one of the all time great teams ever. With one of the all time great players ever. And a top 3 SG ever.
Come on man!

http://mlkshk.com/r/2KNX

RockHardTen1985 03-25-2013 10:16 PM

Herk come on..... John Wall!

Clip-Clop 03-26-2013 11:00 AM

Well that was fun while it lasted. Now another loss at SA is next. Hope they can turn it back on for the playoffs since this conference is weak.

Cannon Shell 03-26-2013 04:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 920855)
An OK team of nobodies that keeps on winning (despite injuries) is more impressive than the team everyone expects to win. How often do the Heat go in as a dog?

I wouldn't exactly call Denver an OK team of nobodies. They aren't quite a title contending team yet but noone in the West wants to play them in the playoffs

Clip-Clop 03-26-2013 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 920909)
I wouldn't exactly call Denver an OK team of nobodies. They aren't quite a title contending team yet but noone in the West wants to play them in the playoffs

Not now but early this season that is pretty much what everyone thought, along with Igoudala being a bust.

Playing them in the playoffs means coming here, nobody wants to play here in any sport except hockey and baseball this season of course.

Cannon Shell 03-26-2013 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 920887)
Well that was fun while it lasted. Now another loss at SA is next. Hope they can turn it back on for the playoffs since this conference is weak.

New Orleans played out of their minds. Sometimes in the NBA the other team shoots 14-25 on 3's and you just get too far behind which makes the Heat streak so unbelievable.
The talk that the NBA is weaker now than in the early 70's is bizarre. Are there more bad teams? Sure but mostly because there are more teams. There are international players, no ABA competing for players and the sophistication of defenses and level of athleticism is not close. Not to mention the media spotlight is far more intense even if the travel is easier. There were some bad NBA teams that year too.

The year of the Lakers streak was Julius Ervings rookie season in the ABA. He averaged 27 ppg and 15 rebounds and that was only good enough for a 2nd team all ABA team selection.

NBA all stars Rick Barry, Artis Gilmore, Dan Issel, Zelmo Beaty, Charlie Scott, George McGinnis, Joe Caldwell, Hall of famer Mel Daniels, multiple ABA all stars Ralph Simpson, Ron Boone, Louis Dampier and Roger Brown arguably all in the top 40 players at that time, all didnt play in the NBA that year.

Winning 33 in a row in any pro sport in any era is an unbelievable accomplishment.





The West is weak? Compared to what? The ACC?

Cannon Shell 03-26-2013 05:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Clip-Clop (Post 920910)
Not now but early this season that is pretty much what everyone thought, along with Igoudala being a bust.

Playing them in the playoffs means coming here, nobody wants to play here in any sport except hockey and baseball this season of course.

Who thought that? Skip Bayless?

They had a tough schedule early having to play 22 of 32 games on the road.
No one wants to play them in the playoffs not only because playing in Denver is tough but because they are young, deep and athletic, rebound like crazy and George Karl is a very good coach. They are 2nd in the league in steals, 1st in offensive rebounding, 2nd total rebounding, 3rd in assists, 3rd in blocked shots, 2nd in forcing turnovers, 1st in points and 3rd in points per game.

Tough to argue with those numbers.

Cannon Shell 03-26-2013 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 920839)
Your insane if you actually believe this. One team is OK at best. With a ceiling of second round exit. The other team is going to go down as one of the all time great teams ever. With one of the all time great players ever. And a top 3 SG ever.
Come on man!


Top 3
Jordan
Kobe
Jerry West

Clip-Clop 03-26-2013 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 920914)
Who thought that? Skip Bayless?

They had a tough schedule early having to play 22 of 32 games on the road.
No one wants to play them in the playoffs not only because playing in Denver is tough but because they are young, deep and athletic, rebound like crazy and George Karl is a very good coach. They are 2nd in the league in steals, 1st in offensive rebounding, 2nd total rebounding, 3rd in assists, 3rd in blocked shots, 2nd in forcing turnovers, 1st in points and 3rd in points per game.

Tough to argue with those numbers.

touche on the schedule, I had forgotten about that. I cannot argue with the numbers or Karl but the expectations for this team were not anywhere near as high as they have played, at least not in this city.

Clip-Clop 03-26-2013 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 920913)
New Orleans played out of their minds. Sometimes in the NBA the other team shoots 14-25 on 3's and you just get too far behind which makes the Heat streak so unbelievable.
The talk that the NBA is weaker now than in the early 70's is bizarre. Are there more bad teams? Sure but mostly because there are more teams. There are international players, no ABA competing for players and the sophistication of defenses and level of athleticism is not close. Not to mention the media spotlight is far more intense even if the travel is easier. There were some bad NBA teams that year too.

The year of the Lakers streak was Julius Ervings rookie season in the ABA. He averaged 27 ppg and 15 rebounds and that was only good enough for a 2nd team all ABA team selection.

NBA all stars Rick Barry, Artis Gilmore, Dan Issel, Zelmo Beaty, Charlie Scott, George McGinnis, Joe Caldwell, Hall of famer Mel Daniels, multiple ABA all stars Ralph Simpson, Ron Boone, Louis Dampier and Roger Brown arguably all in the top 40 players at that time, all didnt play in the NBA that year.

Winning 33 in a row in any pro sport in any era is an unbelievable accomplishment.





The West is weak? Compared to what? The ACC?

That was tongue in cheek since the Heat are "unbeatable"

RockHardTen1985 03-26-2013 11:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 920917)
Top 3
Jordan
Kobe
Jerry West

Fair enough. So he's 4th ever right now. He will ride Lebron to at least 2 more titles. When Wades done you can argue one of the greatest of all time.

Cannon Shell 03-27-2013 12:10 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 920930)
Fair enough. So he's 4th ever right now. He will ride Lebron to at least 2 more titles. When Wades done you can argue one of the greatest of all time.

Being 4th best SG in basketball history would generally be considered one of the best of all time.

RockHardTen1985 03-27-2013 04:09 AM

Where would you rank Paul Pierce?

Cannon Shell 03-27-2013 06:21 AM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 920935)
Where would you rank Paul Pierce?

He is not a SG

3kings 03-27-2013 06:29 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 920917)
Top 3
Jordan
Kobe
Jerry West

Not a big NBA guy but was George Gervin better than Wade? I understand Wade is probably a better defender and rebounder.

herkhorse 03-27-2013 06:54 AM

Earl the Pearl

http://youtu.be/UBHYe_10lEg

Black Jesus

http://youtu.be/vZUUPZrsP_8

RockHardTen1985 03-27-2013 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 920938)
He is not a SG

He's always been a combo 2-3.

Cannon Shell 03-27-2013 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by 3kings (Post 920940)
Not a big NBA guy but was George Gervin better than Wade? I understand Wade is probably a better defender and rebounder.

Uh no.

I loved George Gervin. Tried to emulate the finger roll for years. He could score from just about any angle, could put up points like crazy seemingly without breaking a sweat. But George wasn't much of a defender but at 6'8" he was a pretty good rebounder as a guard. He didn't seem to feel the need to do too much passing either. There really has never been another player like him that I can remember.

I know that it seems that virtually every white person on the planet hates him, but Allen Iverson is probably in the conversation as number 5 with Gervin.

Cannon Shell 03-27-2013 07:13 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 920960)
He's always been a combo 2-3.

Paul Pierce is, has, was and always will be considered a small forward. He is the epitome of small forward. When you look up small forward in the dictionary Paul Pierce is staring out at you.

Interesting Paul Pierce factoid. Last year when they were playing the Sixers in the playoffs a friend of mine was playing cards at Parx when Paul Pierce arrived and sat down at his table. Said he was a competent player and this guy passes out card playing compliments like manhole covers.

RockHardTen1985 03-27-2013 07:19 PM

Chuck I like picking your brain. If you took the original NBA top 50 and did it over right now. Who gets kicked off, and who from this era makes it?

Cannon Shell 03-27-2013 07:44 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 921017)
Chuck I like picking your brain. If you took the original NBA top 50 and did it over right now. Who gets kicked off, and who from this era makes it?

Who knows? It is hard to compare era's. Do you rate a guy versus how he was against his time period or try to compare overall? I can't really rate the guys who played before the mid 70's very well because not only didn't I see them there isn't much TV footage from that time period.

I know the Marvin Gaye All-Star game National Anthem is the unquestioned number 1 version.

Cannon Shell 03-27-2013 07:53 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 921017)
Chuck I like picking your brain. If you took the original NBA top 50 and did it over right now. Who gets kicked off, and who from this era makes it?

I dont know if you read books but there is a great book about the ABA called Loose Balls by Terry Pluto.

http://www.amazon.com/Loose-Balls-Am...ds=loose+balls

Some of the stories told are priceless.

dalakhani 03-29-2013 01:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 920931)
Being 4th best SG in basketball history would generally be considered one of the best of all time.

Better than AI or drexler? I don't think so.

RockHardTen1985 03-29-2013 01:21 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani (Post 921146)
Better than AI or drexler? I don't think so.

Iverson is better then Wade?? No shot.


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