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Would you post those bills for us all to read and enjoy?
Not some blog post about what the house has done, but the actual bills and how they are eliminating women's rights in this country.

:tro:

I love Coach's passion. We agree on alot but not all but I respect the fact that he speaks from the heart.

Politics is an exercise of the brain, patriotism comes from the heart.
He is truly concerned about the future of this country, with good reason.

The National Republican Party, this afternoon in Tampa, just officially approved Todd Akins position on rape as part of the 2012 National Party Platform:

Sure. Here you go.

BTW, the Hyde Amendment, passed in 1976 and attached to all financing bills, legally prevents the US government from using any money to pay for abortion. It is 100% effective. No money from taxpayers has ever been used to fund an abortion.

Todd Akins and Paul Ryan co-sponsored 8 anti-abortion bills in the past two years, btw.

I hope the Library of Congress search on Congressional Bills meets your approval for "not a blog".

Click on this link, and you can read each individual bill. Obviously the bills are pages long, and cannot be posted here. Each bill, despite it's name, contains provisions restricting abortion and women's rights. You simply have to search on the term "abortion"

There are 38 bills from the Republican House this past two years, trying to restrict abortion and womens rights.

Again, go to the link I give, click on each bill to read it.

Search function:
http://thomas.loc.gov/home/Legislati...hp?&n=BillText

http://thomas.loc.gov/cgi-bin/thomas

1 . Welfare Reform Act of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.1135.IH][PDF]
2 . Welfare Reform Act of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.1167.IH][PDF]
3 . Welfare Reform Act of 2011 (Introduced in Senate - IS)[S.1904.IS][PDF]
4 . Religious Liberty Protection Act of 2012 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3982.IH][PDF]
5 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Year 2012 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.2583.RH][PDF]
6 . Making appropriations for the Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and related agencies for the fiscal year ending September 30, 2012, and for other purposes. (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3070.IH][PDF]
7 . Empowering Patients First Act (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.105.IH][PDF]
8 . Common Sense Health Reform Americans Actually Want Act (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.364.IH][PDF]
9 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.1599.PCS][PDF]
10 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Year 2012 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.2583.IH][PDF]
11 . Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.1.IH][PDF]
12 . Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[H.R.1.PCS][PDF]
13 . Full-Year Continuing Appropriations Act, 2011 (Engrossed in House [Passed House] - EH)[H.R.1.EH][PDF]
14 . Reform Americans Can Afford Act of 2011 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.397.IH][PDF]
15 . Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2012 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.2434.RH][PDF]
16 . Foreign Relations Authorization Act, Fiscal Years 2012 and 2013 (Introduced in Senate - IS)[S.1426.IS][PDF]
17 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.2596.RH][PDF]
18 . Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.1573.PCS][PDF]
19 . Empowering Patients First Act (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3000.IH][PDF]
20 . Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2013 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.6020.RH][PDF]
21 . Departments of Labor, Health and Human Services, and Education, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.3295.PCS][PDF]
22 . Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012 (Introduced in House - IH)[H.R.3671.IH][PDF]
23 . Consolidated Appropriations Act, 2012 (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)[H.R.2055.ENR][PDF]
24 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[H.R.5326.PCS][PDF]
25 . Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.1601.PCS][PDF]
26 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Engrossed in House [Passed House] - EH)[H.R.5326.EH][PDF]
27 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.1572.PCS][PDF]
28 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.5326.RH][PDF]
29 . Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[H.R.5855.PCS][PDF]
30 . Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2013 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.5857.RH][PDF]
31 . Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2013 (Engrossed in House [Passed House] - EH)[H.R.5855.EH][PDF]
32 . Department of Homeland Security Appropriations Act, 2013 (Reported in House - RH)[H.R.5855.RH][PDF]
33 . Financial Services and General Government Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.3301.PCS][PDF]
34 . Consolidated and Further Continuing Appropriations Act, 2012 (Enrolled Bill [Final as Passed Both House and Senate] - ENR)[H.R.2112.ENR][PDF]
35 . Commerce, Justice, Science, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.2323.PCS][PDF]
36 . Department of State, Foreign Operations, and Related Programs Appropriations Act, 2013 (Placed on Calendar Senate - PCS)[S.3241.PCS][PDF]
37 . Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Engrossed Amendment Senate - EAS)[H.R.2112.EAS][PDF]
38 . Agriculture, Rural Development, Food and Drug Administration, and Related Agencies Appropriations Act, 2012 (Public Print - PP)[H.R.2112.PP][PDF]

No, I never watch CNN, thanks.

Wake up.

Akins represents the views of the National Republican Party. He's not an outlier, he's the mainstream of the party.

The party just voted his very abortion views into the 2012 party platform this afternoon, as a constitutional amendment support for no abortion, ever, not even in case of rape or incest.

Rove and the National Senate Re-election Committee may have said they'd pull their financing, but they need this senate seat.

The financing will be there tomorrow, as will Todd Akins in the race. He polled best against McCaskill. The GOP needs to take the Senate to own the Supreme Court. If they don't take Missouri they lose Senate chance.

The Dems will hang Akins around Ryan's neck as they should, they are inseparable and co-sponsored 8 anti-abortion bills together.

The GOP has pretty much degenerated into right-wing authoritarianism. The Republican party is owned by Tea Bag loons.

First bill.

Nothing in this title shall be construed as restricting
25 the ability of any non-Federal health benefits coverage
VerDate Mar 15 2010 23:48 Mar 17, 2011 Jkt 099200 PO 00000 Frm 00050 Fmt 6652 Sfmt 6201 E:\BILLS\H1135.IH H1135 smartinez on DSKB9S0YB1PROD with BILLS
51
•HR 1135 IH
1 provider from offering abortion coverage, or the ability of
2 a State or locality to contract separately with such a pro3
vider for such coverage, so long as only funds not author4
ized or appropriated by Federal law are used and such
5 coverage shall not be purchased using matching funds re6
quired for a federally subsidized program, including a
7 State’s or locality’s contribution of Medicaid matching
8 funds.
9 SEC. 606. TREATMENT OF ABORTIONS RELATED TO RAPE,
10 INCEST, OR PRESERVING THE LIFE OF THE
11 MOTHER.
12 The limitations established in this title shall not apply
13 to an abortion—
14 (1) if the pregnancy is the result of an act of
15 rape or incest; or

it goes on, only about not paying for it.
I will allow you to pull the rest of the legal language from each and explain what is different and how it restricts the rights of women.

Both parties are owned by anti-human loons and you're too dense to see it.

I don't need party lessons from your stupid ass. Thanks though.

Been busy few days and i know ya'll been missing the cartoons...Here's some topical ones for your pleasure..



Akin and the War on Women cartoons!
On the first one read all the messages on the t-shirts, i like the one on bottom left..:D

Are you crazy? Read what you wrote - read page 50 - this bill MEANS TESTS for WELFARE, and further restricts access to abortion by welfare recipients!

You are pulling out random words without reading the entire bill.

If you want to make the argument that the current Republican House has introduced no bills restricting womens rights and attempting to restrict further abortion rights, you can stand alone in the face of overwhelming public evidence and discussion of the same, starting with House Bill 3.

It is a factually bereft position - even the Republicans say why they are submitting the bills, and what is contained within!

PROHIBITION ON TAX BENEFITS RELATING TO
4 ABORTION.
5 For taxable years beginning after the date of the en6
actment of this section, no credit shall be allowed under
7 the internal revenue laws with respect to amounts paid
8 or incurred for an abortion or with respect to amounts
9 paid or incurred for a health benefits plan (including pre10
mium assistance) that includes coverage of abortion.
11 SEC. 604. CONSTRUCTION RELATING TO SEPARATE COV12
ERAGE.
13 Nothing in this title shall be construed as prohibiting
14 any individual, entity, or State or locality from purchasing
15 separate abortion coverage or health benefits coverage
16 that includes abortion so long as such coverage is paid
17 for entirely using only funds not authorized or appro18
priated by Federal law and such coverage shall not be pur19
chased using matching funds required for a federally sub20
sidized program, including a State’s or locality’s contribu21
tion of Medicaid matching funds.
From Page 50

Still looking for the restriction on women's rights, not what the federal government will pay for. Please site an example that says what you are accusing.

Read page 50. It restricts welfare recipients right to abortions.

Seriously - are you taking the stand that the GOP has not introduced multiple bills into the Congress, in the past two years, restricting womens rights and increasing restrictions on abortion?

Yes or no? Is that your position, or not? Because if you are taking that position, it is simply wrong. Don't ask for "show me the bills" - I have. This isn't some conspiracy theory, it's been documented all over the news the past 2 years. Just read!

First month of new GOP House:

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA

POST A QUOTE FROM THE BILL THAT SAYS WHAT YOU ARE ACCUSING. You have read the bill, pull page 50 and put it here and please explain which portion is restricting women's rights.

My position is that you are unable to prove any of what you allege with quoted documentation.
Are there republicans that are against abortion, of course there are, there are democrats too.
Is that a settled topic since 1973 in the minds of most people, yes.

You insulting moron, I have agreed before with you that both parties are a joke. Get a grip and stop posturing and lying about what I say.

I said this current congress has introduced over 40 bills to curtail abortion and womens rights.

You demand to see the bills.

I post 38 of them.

Again: if you are taking the position that the Republicans have not introduced multiple bills attempting to curtail abortion and women's rights, that's as easily proven wrong as reading todays news.

That's just a crazy, wrong position, as wrong as saying the sky is not blue. It's common knowlege. The GOP even brags about it. And you say it doesn't exist?

Seriously - is that what you are saying? Because that's so crazy, I'm trying to see if I am misunderstanding you.

Again:

First month of new GOP House, 2010

GOP Introduces Four Anti-Abortion Bills Into Congress; Other Women's Issues at Risk
http://www.seniorwomen.com/news/inde...issues-at-risk

Since taking control of the House last month, Republicans have introduced several major anti-abortion bills that women's rights activists say could place severe limitations on a access not only to abortion, but complete reproductive health and family planning services.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VQbrMwwEbCA

lots of disclaimers in there. zero quotes.
You posted bills, I read the first one and saw nothing other than financial explanations.
I ask for a quote from a doc you posted that proves your point and I get a couple videos and potential effects as read by women's rights groups.
This is the process of debating you and the reason so few remain that are willing to do so.

Again: what are you saying? Be clear!

I said, "This current congress has introduced over 40 bills attempting to restrict abortion and womens' rights".

Are you saying my statement is false? Yes or no? Are you saying the GOP has not introduced bills to restrict women's rights and abortion? Yes or no?

Now she will say the same thing over and over again and call you stupid. Watch.

Still saying pull one quote from one bill that actually says what you are alleging other than a fiscal notation.

But this is pointless any way, you are blind and foolish and refuse to defend your positions and I will now join the sane people of the site that ignore your time wasting answer questions with questions philosophy that you equate with debate.
fare well.

Priebus: GOP platform 'not the platform of Mitt Romney'





http://firstread.nbcnews.com/_news/2...tt-romney?lite

Stop it.

Stop being ridiculous and childish and whiny, and trying to derail a talk about if women's rights are being restricted with you interspersing personal attack.

Just grow up and stop it.

Racist.

I already quoted one bill at the start of your weirdness: House Bill 3. The very first bill the GOP introduced in this congress.

I said that indeed the GOP has introduced bill after bill in this Congress, that restricts womens rights.

You are denying that exists? Yes or no? I'm trying to be clear on what you are "demanding" as "proof" of "what".

I posted 38 bills that do just that. I posted a news article that lists the first 4 anti-abortion bills this House GOP introduced their first month in office in 2010.

You say that's not proof the GOP has introduced multiple bills in the House attempting to restrict abortion and women's rights? Good lord, the GOP is proud they have introduced bills to restrict abortion! It's their party platform!

Your contention that GOP restricting women's rights is all imaginary is beyond ridiculous on it's face.

I think you don't acknowledge that you stepped in it. Again.

point out precisely in any of these bills where the proposed laws states what you are saying it states.

Nowhere.

You are making the leap to say that a proposed bill which limits the government paying for abortions = Congress attempting to restrict abortions and of course by extension, women's rights.

And you got caught.


Fool.

Clip Clop says that doesn't exist. Clip Clop says there is no attempt to restrict women's rights. It's all an unprovable lie.

I started with House Bill 3. There were four bills introduced the first month of congress alone restricting abortion rights. There have been multiples since.

You are joining Clip Clop in denying they exist? Really? REALLY?

In the face of the actual bills being available, Republicans talking about them, and the news covering them?

Really? And you dare to call me a fool? Bwwwaahaaaaaaaaaaa!

God save this country from the profoundly ignorant.

Denying what? that the language you are on here trumpeting doesn't exist?
Really? REALLY?

Clip asked you numerous times to post precisely what, in any of these bills, seeks out to "restrict women rights"

And you respond with your usual bully tactic insults.

Please answer the question. Post precisely where, in any of these bills, the expressed purpose is to "control and restrict women's rights".

I bet you don't answer the question again. But I'm sure you'll find a way to try and insult me. Which is always good for a laugh.

Hello - reality check on your little snit, Rude ...

I said, "The Republicans have introduced over 40 bills in Congress that attempt to restrict women's rights."

Proof provided. But why anyone would demand "proof" is bizarre. Unless they've been living in a cave? It's like asking for "proof" that Hannity exists. Hell, it's common knowledge in the real world. Massive, ongoing, constant press coverage of this issue over the past two years. Republicans brag about it, about all the bills they've introduced.

But I posted 38 bills covering abortion changes, news articles covering the first 4 bills, and the very first bill itself, House Bill 3.

Hell, Paul Ryan and Todd Akins co-wrote 4 (8?) of them together and co-sponsored them - they are PROUD to be removing women's rights to contraception and abortion.

The concept that two dudes - Rude and Clip-Clop - on an internet board proudly stand together and say, "duh, that's not true", and spending multiple posts trying to prove it, is as laughable as calling the sky not blue.

Done.

But let's get back to today's big news, regarding the (some think imaginary) war on women's rights -

Republicans want a constitutional amendment that raped women cannot get abortions.

They want it so badly, they have voted today, and officiallyincluded it in their Official National Republican Party Platform, as a goal to work towards.

You are a proven fraud. Where in any of these 40 bills are OMG TEH DEVILL republicans purposely attempting to "restrict women's rights"?

how do you get the marmot in the tux?

I am truly afraid that when they drag Riot off to the funny farm in November that there are provisions within the thousands of pages that is Obamacare that will allow the government to bill those of us who have argued with Riot here to pay for her psychological care.

They are entirely imaginary! Like the Republican Platform today, wanting a constitutional amendment restricting access to abortion for women who were raped!

Why, that doesn't restrict woman's rights, does it, Rude?

What is your opinion of that, Rude - do you think that restricts womens rights? Put up or shut up with an opinion, eh?

What about the Republicans trying to pass multiple bills to change the definition of "rape" to "forced rape" - what is your opinion of that? I mean, I know it's just me lying about it, right? It's just imaginary?

The Wall Street Journal, the Associated Press, Forbes, the bills I posted - including the one Clip -Clop couldn't read accurately on page 50 - all lying every time they had a story about them. The news stories I posted about the first four anti-abortion bills this House tried to pass in the first month back in 2012? Made up lies by the liberul media. The Republicans that bragged about these bills, like Akins and Ryan, who co-sponsored 4 of them? They are lying to you, too!

All imaginary. The Republicans haven't done a thing in the past two years to restrict the rights of women. Right, Rude? Yeah, I'm a "proven fraud" on those bills, the counts which are everywhere in news stories!

Like this one:
80: The Number Of Anti-Abortion Laws Passed By The States In 2011
http://thinkprogress.org/health/2011...in-the-states/

Just a lie!

My god. The stupid and deliberate ignorance must burn. We are laughing at you, it is so very sad, how deliberately, purposely ignoring you are. Unbelievable. You stand there and you call me a liar saying there have been multiple bills passed in Congress? And I can't "prove it"?

And you want to be taken seriously? By who, the other conspiracy theorists and loons?

Yeah, the president is white, too. Oh, and rainbows shoot out your azz when you're happy.

That's not a marmot. But never mind, reality doesn't matter to you :D Carry on.

There you go again, twisting fact in an anemic attempt support your ridiculous opinion. It is truly tiring.

What does the RNC's position on abortion with regard to incest and rape (a position I personally detest as do many high level republicans within the house and senate), have to do with these evil bills you have trumpeted as having explicit language that "restricts women's rights"??!!

Again, you continue to prove once again that you are nothing but a fraud and a pathological liar with zero credibility hiding behind the personality of an internet bully.

I feel bad for you. Not really.

I never thought I'd waste my 5,000 post responding to your nonsense :(

I feel bad for me.