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dellinger63 12-21-2011 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 826754)
********

make believe?

Anyways ** **** ******** and the rest

Riot 12-21-2011 05:27 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 826753)
Thank you $100 isn't going to change my life one way or the other.

Get back to work Senate - others are still working why aren't you?

The Senate Republicans already passed the compromise bill Boehner wanted and sent it to the House for him to vote on it.

We're waiting.

hi_im_god 12-21-2011 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 826757)
make believe?

Anyways ** **** ******** and the rest

it's actually based in chicago of all places.

i'm not sure why i didn't just leave the name in but now i want you to guess.

********. chicago. large corporation.

the actual headquarters are in **********.

dellinger63 12-21-2011 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 826761)
it's actually based in chicago of all places.

i'm not sure why i didn't just leave the name in but now i want you to guess.

********. chicago. large corporation.

the actual headquarters are in **********.

They simply copied Huffypost. Good Luck!

Riot 12-21-2011 05:38 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 826752)
it's working for us. it won't happen but i really wish there was a way to prevent the house from reconvening to accept the senate bill.

i almost feel sorry for boehner. outside of obama, he has the hardest job in washington.

he made a bad call on this. he's constantly watching his back for the inevitable challange to his leadership and he's probably guaranteed it now.

he has to fold. take a bullet. at least if he had taken a stand against the right and accepted the senate bill earlier he could have avoided the damage to his own party.

They will reconvene Friday morning, and Boehner will simply allow a vote with no advice to his caucus. It will pass. Boehner will frame it as a Christmas Holiday Gift From the Republican Party To America.

But he's tearing the GOP brand apart, and the Dems are already making the ads for the 2012 election cycle about "Republicans raise taxes"

dellinger63 12-21-2011 05:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 826765)
They will reconvene Friday morning, and Boehner will simply allow a vote with no advice to his caucus. It will pass. Boehner will frame it as a Christmas Holiday Gift From the Republican Party To America.

But he's tearing the GOP brand apart, and the Dems are already making the ads for the 2012 election cycle about "Republicans raise taxes"

The truth shall prevail. Spending cuts (HUGE) is the answer rather than spending to prevent bankruptcy!

Cut the Gov. by 50% and see how far trillions go to solving our problems. We/ve tried everything else and it doesn't work!

hi_im_god 12-21-2011 05:47 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 826764)
They simply copied Huffypost. Good Luck!

keep the faith.

if you find something similar there please post it. i'll have to admit my deception.

in the meantime, roughly 40,000 employee's got that email. i can't say for sure there were more elsewhere but i suspect other corporations operate under the same rules.

i'm fine with this. roll with it.

geeker2 12-21-2011 06:08 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 826768)
keep the faith.

if you find something similar there please post it. i'll have to admit my deception.

in the meantime, roughly 40,000 employee's got that email. i can't say for sure there were more elsewhere but i suspect other corporations operate under the same rules.

i'm fine with this. roll with it.

Another great spot this one is in Rancho Bernardo http://urgegastropub.com/

hi_im_god 12-21-2011 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 826770)
Another great spot this one is in Rancho Bernardo http://urgegastropub.com/


it's been 6 weeks and i probably won't be down again until mid-january.

i'll see if i can drag my brother there.

it won't be hard.

geeker2 12-21-2011 07:51 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 826773)
it's been 6 weeks and i probably won't be down again until mid-january.

i'll see if i can drag my brother there.

it won't be hard.


:cool: one of these times we'll hook up - beers on me even though my paycheck will be diminished slightly ;)

hi_im_god 12-21-2011 08:12 PM

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Originally Posted by geeker2 (Post 826788)
:cool: one of these times we'll hook up - beers on me even though my paycheck will be diminished slightly ;)

you, me, my friend doug, my brother paul, and anyone else who wants to join.

i'll get the second round if it's at stone.

doug and paul are republican's so i'd appreciate if you brought at least one from my side.

geeker2 12-21-2011 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god (Post 826795)
you, me, my friend doug, my brother paul, and anyone else who wants to join.

i'll get the second round if it's at stone.

doug and paul are republican's so i'd appreciate if you brought at least one from my side.

:tro: I'll bring Barbara Boxer :p

Danzig 12-21-2011 09:40 PM

http://firstread.msnbc.msn.com/_news...win-this-fight


i have to say that i think the tax cut should expire. they call it a tax cut, but it's cutting social security, which is already in a mess.

Riot 12-22-2011 11:33 AM

Today Republican House Speaker John Boehner stands firm.

Half an hour later, Republican Senate Minority Leader Mitch McConnell publicly throws Boehner to the wolves, and says Boehner better just pass the damn thing as Reid presented it to him.

Politicos are speculating that McConnell is creating this public Republican brawl trying to get Boehner out as Speaker, so he can get Eric Cantor in. But no doubt, the party is being hurt terribly in public opinion due to the infighting. Boehner has been attacked by the conservative Wall Street Journal and Karl Rove. He continues fealty to the destructive Tea Party.


Riot 12-22-2011 04:45 PM

Yeah. Even your own party threw you in the Tea Pot to drown all alone today. You'll notice that nobody - not even your own Senators - came back to Washington during your grandstanding.

Yeah, just vote that puppy "passed" tomorrow morning, and try to watch out for Cantor coming at your back.

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Statement by Speaker Boehner on Efforts to Enact a Full-Year Extension of Payroll Tax Relief

Washington (Dec 22)

House Speaker John Boehner (R-OH) today issued the following statement:

“Senator Reid and I have reached an agreement that will ensure taxes do not increase for working families on January 1 while ensuring that a complex new reporting burden is not unintentionally imposed on small business job creators. Under the terms of our agreement, a new bill will be approved by the House that reflects the bipartisan agreement in the Senate along with new language that allows job creators to process and withhold payroll taxation under the same accounting structure that is currently in place. The Senate will join the House in immediately appointing conferees, with instructions to reach agreement in the weeks ahead on a full-year payroll tax extension. We will ask the House and Senate to approve this agreement by unanimous consent before Christmas. I thank our Members – particularly those who have remained here in the Capitol with the holidays approaching – for their efforts to enact a full-year extension of the payroll tax cut for working families.”

Coach Pants 12-23-2011 08:45 AM

You tell 'em, Riot!! Don't worry about that thing on the hook, it's just bait. Hey while we've got you in the holding tank you should practice bouncing that ball off your nose.

Riot 12-23-2011 10:56 AM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 827038)
You tell 'em, Riot!! Don't worry about that thing on the hook, it's just bait. Hey while we've got you in the holding tank you should practice bouncing that ball off your nose.

Hey, keep up that, "I'm a radical anarchist" eliminate-the-government stuff. It's a good, easy default for those unable to do anything constructive or follow along. Just have to keep repeating that one-note irresponsibility answer for everything.

bigrun 12-23-2011 11:14 AM

Payroll tax cut awaits Obama's signature
 
Nice picture of Boener...:tro:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/45776434

Riot 12-23-2011 11:25 AM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 827057)
Nice picture of Boener...:tro:

Now they get to actively block tax increases on millionaires, the most popular polling item in the country, right after they've narrowed their presidential field and during election season. And this am the Tea Party recalcitrants took to the twitterverse to whine and complain, revealing themselves as duplicitous weaklings who could have objected, but went with unanimous voice consent out of the other sides of their mouths.

Frank Luntz is working overtime, but is relatively saved by Christmas break.

Buy popcorn futures :tro: It's only gonna get more entertaining.

Coach Pants 12-23-2011 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 827051)
Hey, keep up that, "I'm a radical anarchist" eliminate-the-government stuff. It's a good, easy default for those unable to do anything constructive or follow along. Just have to keep repeating that one-note irresponsibility answer for everything.

Yeah because they're being so constructive.

You're just dumb. Can't fix it.

Coach Pants 12-23-2011 12:04 PM

Doesn't this just warm your f.ucking heart?

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"Joseph from New Jersey talked about how he would have to sacrifice the occasional pizza night with his daughters. He said -- and I'm quoting -- 'My 16-year-old twins will be out of the house soon. I'll miss this.'
I don't care how we pay for it! I'm crying!!

dellinger63 12-23-2011 12:19 PM

If Joseph just cut down from two-packs a day to one he could have pizza night every week!

Meanwhile our President crying poor just left on a $4 million dollar vacay!

If only the 'average american family' making 50K a year, would come to the realization investing in SS and Medicare is far more responsible than pizza night, or nike shoes etc. we'd be headed in the right direction. Sadly we're not even close. Grow Up America!

Riot 12-23-2011 04:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants (Post 827069)
Yeah because they're being so constructive.

You're just dumb. Can't fix it.


You can change within the governmental system we have, or pick your way. Good luck with that whole, "overthrow and eliminate" thing. Especially since you don't have the military.

Riot 12-23-2011 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by dellinger63 (Post 827076)
If Joseph just cut down from two-packs a day to one he could have pizza night every week!

Meanwhile our President crying poor just left on a $4 million dollar vacay!

If only the 'average american family' making 50K a year, would come to the realization investing in SS and Medicare is far more responsible than pizza night, or nike shoes etc. we'd be headed in the right direction. Sadly we're not even close. Grow Up America!

The median income in 2011 America is $26,364.

Not $50,000.

clyde 12-23-2011 06:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 827113)
The median income in 2011 America is $26,364.

Not $50,000.



Linky-poo??

Riot 12-23-2011 06:45 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 827121)
Linky-poo??

http://blogs.reuters.com/david-cay-j...ata-its-awful/

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There were fewer jobs and they paid less last year, except at the very top where, the number of people making more than $1 million increased by 20 percent over 2009.

The median paycheck — half made more, half less — fell again in 2010, down 1.2 percent to $26,364. That works out to $507 a week, the lowest level, after adjusting for inflation, since 1999.

The number of Americans with any work fell again last year, down by more than a half million from 2009 to less than 150.4 million.

DaTruth 12-23-2011 07:00 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 827121)
Linky-poo??

www.bully.org/yourdailypropaganda

clyde 12-23-2011 07:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 827130)

He did say "average American family."



You countered with ''average American worker".....did you snot?...I mean not?

clyde 12-23-2011 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by DaTruth (Post 827134)


I couldn't get there, but love the title.

bigrun 12-23-2011 08:00 PM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 827137)
He did say "average American family."



You countered with ''average American worker".....did you snot?...I mean not?


You always pick up on the little things...I like that....Inspector Clouseau :D

clyde 12-23-2011 08:02 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 827142)
You always pick up on the little things...I like that....Inspector Clouseau :D

!!!!



Bag Roan!!....may lee-tel yallow frand!!

bigrun 12-24-2011 10:14 AM

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Originally Posted by clyde (Post 827143)
!!!!



Bag Roan!!....may lee-tel yallow frand!!



Years back i had cataract surgery on my left eye...had to wear a patch over my eye for a few days...one day at the clinic waiting room a chinaman sat next to me and he had a patch over his eye...I said to him 'I see you have a cataract'...he said 'No, i drive a Rincoln'....:D

Danzig 12-24-2011 10:36 AM

payroll tax cut fight ended the year, but the fight is far from over. and i like how they call it a 'payroll tax' when they should really remind everyone that it's a cut on ss witholding. i guess it's all in how your word it.

dellinger63 12-24-2011 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by Riot (Post 827113)
The median income in 2011 America is $26,364.

Not $50,000.

Tell that to the Dems. They keep crying the average family would have $1,000 less w/o the payroll tax cut when in the real world it's $527.28 or $1.62/day. And they can't afford that? LMAO!

Just like the unions, as long as someone else pays for their retirement/healthcare it's all good.

Ocala Mike 12-24-2011 12:12 PM

Payroll tax cut fight ends ugly year for Boehner
 
The battle is over, but the war remains. Yes, an ugly year for Boehner because he's got to fight both sides.

His favorite song? - "You Had a Bad Day."


Ocala Mike

clyde 12-24-2011 12:39 PM

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Originally Posted by bigrun (Post 827173)
Years back i had cataract surgery on my left eye...had to wear a patch over my eye for a few days...one day at the clinic waiting room a chinaman sat next to me and he had a patch over his eye...I said to him 'I see you have a cataract'...he said 'No, i drive a Rincoln'....:D

Oh gosh, that was a good one!



Later,I have a real life one eye story to tell.

wiphan 01-06-2012 08:13 AM

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Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 827190)
The battle is over, but the war remains. Yes, an ugly year for Boehner because he's got to fight both sides.

His favorite song? - "You Had a Bad Day."


Ocala Mike

Anybody know how we are going to pay for the 2 month payroll holiday? The government is increasing the Guaranty Fees to GSE's (FHA, Fannie, Freddie) which effectively means that mortgage rates will increase by .125% to pay for this. The interesting fact is that it will take 10 yrs of these increased fees to pay for the 2 month payroll holiday.


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