Holy cow, I'll be even the Onion had no idea how prescient that would be!

I'd hope #1 would be jobs and the economy. Like Boehner said it was (that sure turned out false).

At least McConnell didn't lie, and said outright his Senate would be all about screwing the President, rather than helping America.

Embrace Occupy, it will be the political force to be reckoned with this next election cycle. It's non-partisan.

the shame is the gridlock that occurs, and us waiting for things to happen while they make sure that anything that happens worth crowing about came from 'them'. of course, the opposite of 'them' does what they can to keep that from happening.
so, nothing happens and we all plod along.

we need term limits for congress. if they can't get re-elected, they might get off their asses and actually do something because they don't have to worry about pandering to voters.

term limits only empowers lobbyists. when you wipe out institutional memory, who do you think fills the vacuum?

the entire term limits paradigm is misguided. it started on a premise that no one running for office could possibly do so out a sense of public responsibility and has been a self-fulfilling prophecy. it's guaranteed the result it was supposed to solve.

the actual solution would be taking away redistricting from elected officials. if there were limited safe partisan districts there would also be limited safety in partisanship.

but that faces the same problem your solution does. both are state level issues and each state has an entrenched interest in the status quo.

Did you just see what happened in AZ regarding that? The independent commission redistricted and put forth the tentative plan, then Republican Gov. Jan Brewer fired the head of the Commission before it became final. The state Supreme Court told Brewer to get lost, that's illegal, and reinstated the Commission chair. Brewer is now desperately trying to figure out how to get her fired again, and the Supreme Court warned her, and said, "Don't do it".

Paid lobbyists need to be gone. Lobbyists own our government. Money needs to be gone out of politics. Congress becomes millionaires, and it's not due to their salaries.

In many ways this is helping

Please explain how a political force can be non-partisan?

What you are saying makes no sense. Term limits arent to blame for the political issues that we are experiencing. The issue that it could help solve in Congress is we wouldn't have career Congressmen who become entrenched in office and become far too influential, far more than their one vote is supposed to be.

Seriously? You only see politics through partisan viewpoints, huh? :D

In the same way the political force of the Civil Rights movement was non-partisan.

if you can point to a state legislature or city council where term limits has resulted in better legislation, i'll concede.

but so far as i can see, all it does is replace the problem of entrenched elected officials with the far worse problem of entrenched unelected lobbyists. it's not as if influence disappears. it just moves elsewhere.

getting rid of incumbent based gerrymandering would go a lot further toward achieving the goal of good government than the idea of term limits.

it's a pointless debate though. it's not as if many states are going to universally disarm.

You're pathetic Dino..lol..call out Andy but you just troll here and never bother to post anything of substance. Your Red Sox Suck, your republicans suck and you have four more years of PRESIDENT Obama to look forward to. Post something about policy, post something about what you would do differently. I grew up out in assachusetts land and know your kind too well. opps..you lose again...4 more years

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stop it!

copped that from clyde....jus messin

Having watched them bend over for Bush from 2000-2008, I disagree.

You may have made a catch here, Rita.

You went Coulter on him.



May be too much.

Wow threatening women now eh Nascar?

you might want to go back and do some googling on that first.

i am for anything that removes these 'leaders' from their positions of entrenched power. i advocate term limits for the same reason that the president is limited.

just read this yesterday, in the andrew jackson bio by h.w. brands (i highly recommend it!). it's jacksons view on rotation in office, rather than permanent tenure:

'there are, perhaps, few men who can for any great length of time enjoy office and power without being more or less under the influence of feelings unfavorable to the faithful discharge of their public duties. they are apt to acquire a habit of looking on with indifference upon the public interests and of tolerating conduct from which an unpracticed man would revolt. office is considered as a species of property. in a country where offices are created solely for the benefit of the people, no one man has any more intrinisic right to official station than another. offices were not established to give support to particular men at the public expense.'

'i can not but believe that more is lost by the continuance of men in office than is generally to be gained by their experience'.

http://articles.cnn.com/2002-03-13/p...PM:ALLPOLITICS

Let's play find the March 13, 2002 quote...if you can.

The NEWT train is picking up steam! :D

Newt's going to be the only one at The Donald's "debate" - and I can't wait to see Donald go Crazy Birther on Newt, and Newt tell Donald to GFY. The implosion will be ... stunning!

I mean..do you think it's because he's capable or candidate by default and self-implosion of all others?

i don't think newt's capable. he's just the latest non-romney to get attention. i guess the right wingers are going to get all the non-mormons up in the polls and then watch each of them crash and burn in turn.
it'll end up romney vs huntsman for the nominee. lol

oh boy. what a joke this campaign was/is/will be.

I seriously think that the GOP knows that beating Obama this cycle will be very difficult. Even the "someday hopefuls" (Jeb, Christie, Rubio, etc) are keeping their good names out of this mess. The GOP has always used primogeniture to pick their candidates, thus they are letting Romney be the sacrificial lamb of 2012. There has been no GOP push to get a decent, top shelf candidate out there. The best part of Romney is that the RNC is dead broke, and Mitt can use his own wealth to finance his campaign, so the party won't even lose money this cycle. I think the party is in a holding cycle, waiting for 2016. I don't even think they are that concerned about 2012 downticket races. However, I think you'll see RNC money going only to downticket races, not to the Presidential race.

The only concern the party is publicly starting to have is the brand being permanently ruined by the crazy.

The old establishment GOP can't stand Newt. They kicked him out of the party when he crashed as Speaker with his record-setting $300,000 of ethics violations. Even if Newt were a serious candidate (he can't be, too much political and social baggage), the establishment GOP would not allow it. Newt's on a book tour, between his lobbying gigs, and everyone knows it.

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....carter was the worst of ALLTIME. before Barry.

Newt was either too stupid to see the mortgage industry collapse in front of him and was speaking with ignorance when defending Fannie Mae as late as mid 2007 or he lied and kept it to himself. Either he's a buffoon or a lying thief. I'm leaning strongly towards the latter. Still he's marginally better than who he’d be matched against.

Having the lowest U.S. Presidential approval rating in modern history, lower than even Jimmy Carter isn’t like a Nobel Peace Prize, it’s earned.

Riot’s right the GOP is going to take this election cycle off or at least that’s what the post card they sent me said. ;)

Can i use this one too?...thank you.....and ask riot not to use those big words i have to look up like 'primogeniture'....use your inimitable style when asking....:D

That's a gotcha question....ok, those words were picked from his press conference and assembled into a package for clarity...bin laden was not on his mind at the time, had bigger fish to fry...like invading a soveriegn country....:tro:

G Dumya Bush will forever hold that title..and dumbest......no contest...:D

worst of the 70's. but all time? no way.

Of course you can.

I am behooved.



And I will ask her.

Really Rita, do you mind??


Knock it off with the multi-syllable speak.On line dictionaries have enough traffic.

Let's not Hitchens this place up....OK?

Would you like to hear Rita's song?

Who's Rita..riot?....she's good people, take it easy on her...

btw, thanks for axing her about the big words....very good reference with the Hitchens comment....even with the dictionary i can't follow that guy....:D

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Me neither.

And yes...RitaRiot.





http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Se5JLYKQfDU

spit!!!!

thud!