Question for the circle jerk boys....are you at all concerned with a candidate that says they recieve their instructions on how to live life directly from god?

When answering, please stick to topic and let's see if you can do it without mentioning Obama.

Same conversation over and over again? Sounds like an Obama press conference - or the nightly news coverage thereof - take your pick.

The topic was Michele Bachman. I presume that whatever one likes or dislikes about her is relevant. No one has made a "Got a crush on Bachmann" song yet like we had to endure with the president during his election campaign.

Oh, and your capitalization needs work. It's capital G-o-d.

I think that would be more rational than a president who thinks he is God.

It's President Obama..and it's god

It doesn't need to be cpaitalized..kinda like cat, horse, god, rock etc

I love folks who project attributes to others based solely on political beliefs, you volunteer at a homeless shelter and give to charity....those are good attributes and I admire that but yet you are so narrow minded that you seem unable to conceive that folks with a different opinion might not be less. That is my argument with Bachmann and others on the far right...I'm not calling her stupid, just narrow minded and all to willing to deny equal rights to folks different from her. To me, so-called liberals are little different from main stream conservatives, I would have been just as comfortable voting for Condy Rice as Obama had she run. This country is governed from the middle, and I see little chance of that changing....I disagree with many of Obama's politics, just see little reason to spew hate-filled names his direction. One question I have to ask you though....if you see poor folks as "trash", how can you work at a homeless shelter? And, why give money to "good causes" if you feel the way you say? (OK, two questions). Seems like you may be posting more out of frustration than deep rooted conviction.

I still dont understand how God talks to people.

Do you really hear voices in your head? or is a feeling?

Wrong. It's President Obama when you use his name as a direct title. It's the president when referring to the office or its occupant indirectly.

And it's God. Consult the first commandment if you're confused.

depend which God (or god) you are talking about.

There have been thousands.

If you hear voices in your head, that's probably schizophrenia or a bad drug trip, and both are good reasons to see a doctor.

I didn't see the original quote, but I would think there is a difference between someone saying "God spoke to me" versus "God has made His will known to me", and that would have to be a feeling, presumably of inspiration towards the doing of good works for others.

does someone need to read the bible to have inspiration towards the doing of good works for others? cant you just come up with that because homo sapians have advanced brains?

a co worker of mine always talks about how big G speaks to her. I think she's schizophrenic. She told me God told her to look under a box of tissue's to find a scorpion. I personally believe it was free will.

do you have to be a christian to get to heaven? what about people who were born into a hindu or muslim, or jewish family? no chance?

Of course. But intelligence alone doesn't predispose one toward benevolent action. There have been a lot of smart evil people too.

That may apply to Christians but doubt that many Muslims (for example) will take guidance from the Christian Bible. I am guilty of often using lower case "g" when referring to Christian/Jewish deity...don't do it out of disrespect but simply my mindset doesn't equate the term to the Almighty.

am I the only one who things the bible wasnt meant to be taken literally?

like... here read this and take the message (moral of the story) from it.

not

there was really a flood that killed everyone except Noah and two of every species

Joey, I agree with that...it's not intellect but one's moral compass that dictates behavior....but belief in one specific deity is not the determining factor either.

I think we have left the subject of the thread. I would not believe that only Christians get into heaven. I would guess that all religions center around peace and good will towards others have a good shot.

Those guys screaming "Kill the Infidels" and blowing up planes probably have reason to worry. After all, if God made 6 billion plus people and counting, I don't think He meant for part of them to be prey and part to be predators.

Agreed!

then you get into the whole mind, body and spirit (soul) debate.

i feel most people believe we have a spirit that goes on and on.

but what is it made of and where does it go? where did it come from?

I personally think that your soul is the same as your mind and body and that all three go kaput the day your heart stops beating.

also....


is there more meaning to life on Earth if there IS an afterlife, or if there is NOT an afterlife? wouldnt what you do on earth be more important if it was the end all, not everlasting?


so many interesting questions and answers. I love hearing about other people's beliefs.

I agree. It is a fascinating subject, because the question itself encompasses everything we know (and don't know) about what may or may not come next.

It deserves its own thread.

I didn't think you'd answer it. Even you must realize how ridiculous it is but you'd never admit it. So instead you deflect. Typical douchebag move.

Well played.

I like this answer


so do you believe in hell? i find the concept of hell to be so evil and horrible, I dont know why any God (big G or little g) would create something like it. what are the requirements to stay out of the place? If you are one of the most generous people on the planet, and always look to do what is right, but you are an athiest, does that mean you burn for eternity? its just not something I can bring myself to support.

"Organized religion is a sham and a crutch for weak-minded people who need strength in numbers. It tells people to go out and stick their noses in other people's business. I live by the golden rule: Treat others as you'd want them to treat you. The religious right wants to tell people how to live."

Jesse Ventura
Interview in Playboy (November 1999)

i agree... the one thing, as it related to Michelle Bachmann, is that I do not want my political leaders to base their policies off beliefs in higher powers. Because there are no right or wrong answers, and look how much bad has come of religious based policy - "God willed me to do it" -crusades

I agree with this when focusing only on the religious right (which I think is just a very very minor part of religion).


but as far as organized religion in general... I think it has more to do with not wanting to deal with your own mortality than it does wanting to tell others how to live. People dont want to die and be done, with heaven, you get a different option. It's comforting.

Mr. Ventura would be surprised to see that his golden rule is word for word translated from Matthew 7:12.

It can be a crutch for those who choose to be weak-minded, but those who choose to contemplate the big questions and things that are infinite by definition are normally open minded.

Do you fancy yourself as open minded?

I think he is on the subject of religion. some people freak out at the questions I was asking... he seemed to be answering them with an open mind.

I do try to be. Of course like many here, on the subject of politics I tend to have made my mind up with what I have observed so far in life. I do reserve the right to change my opinions as my conclusions and experiences change.

Gotcha... I wish this Almighty God would talk to Player_Player about the folly of betting 2 favorites Win/Place. How many 8.00 bets that bring back 3.60 will it take ;)

lol... he really does that??

I find that very revealing and truthful, in the end we are all products of our life's experiences. I know my rather extreme political positions come from my own experiences. A person who has firm religious beliefs yet is able to remain open to the beliefs of others is someone that I, for one, respect.

Change it will not.....my statement speaks for itself....Watch out Player_Player is looking for a circle jerk partner

As usual, you make no sense. Whose kool aid am I drinking? Simple question, requires an answer so simple even an idiot like you should be able to do it.

Come on douche, make me proud.

Let me be clear....You have to eat your pea's.....

As for Bachmann i can care less...i do not fancy her as presidential material

i read something a few months back..something along the lines of just because you have an issue with the messenger, it doesn't make the message less important.
as for obama, he may be naive, inept, in over his head...but he's not a scumbag. i didn't vote for him, or mccain (first time ever i voted for a 3rd party candidate) in the last election...but if for some odd reason i had to choose between just obama and this gal, well-i'd be voting democrat.

this woman is a nutcase. you can't use logic with people who think they have a direct line with gaaawd.

:tro::tro::$::$:

that's how i raised my kids. so many 'christians' are some of the most hateful, judgemental, bigoted people you'd ever see. it's amazing.