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Alot of people dropped the ball on this one.:(
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I tried to call someone in Europe who has Betfair when this went down, but to no avail.
It's really a disgrace. As soon as JV said something on national TV it was going to be a disaster no matter what. Can you imagine what would have happened if she had broken down? It was just terrible to watch as someone who doesn't want to see a horse in distress and as a bettor. I don't buy the lights excuse either. . . that's obviously a cop out. I hope there's a big time backlash from this. |
Is the ESPN coverage available online now? The Borel fight was posted 5 minutes after the event but I can't find the ESPN pre-race coverage of the Distaff anywhere.
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Don't know if pre-race is online but she looked terrible in the post parade and JV looked very concerned. To note, JV did asked for and received a vet check and she cleared to go, well that's what they reported on ESPN after the race was over. |
that horse was higher than lil wayne..allday scurries away under the lights..
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From THE BLOODHORSE
Dr. Larry Bramlage, on-call veterinarian for the American Association of Equine Practitioners, said in a statement that the 5-year-old mare was examined prior to entering the starting gate by a team of three vets that "did not observe any physical problems.
"She was examined again after the race and again no physical problems were observed. A more in-depth examination will be conducted this evening and tomorrow," the statment read |
The best Pletcher can do is tell Velazquez is to warm her up well? That idiot should have given specific orders.....if she doesnt feel right to order a scratch from the vet. Pletcher knew he was sending dogmeat to the track and just sat back and watched. He is the trainer of the horse and responsible for her well being. Today TAP stands for Totally Arrogant Prick
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Who examined her - Stevie Wonder? Jeez, seeing the sweat pouring off her and her mincing steps as they were leading her off the track. She barely did more than a walk around that track. That sweat was stress from pain. Idiots! |
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A vet at the gate is probably looking for unsoundness but LAT was not unsound. She appeared to be sick, not lame.
When she was led back after being unsaddled, she was blowing HARD even though she had just jogged across the line. She looked like she'd just set a track record. |
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Initial cbc/smac would have only taken 20 mins or so to run, possibly can show allergic reaction but not alway. Will have to wait, I guess, for more test results. |
I don't have the pp's in front of me, but don't remember noting that she was first time lasix, was she?
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Right but if LAT was scratched the result would have been the same. I agree with you though that this does affect handicapping of the race of course. edit: except the pools of course. |
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I wasn't really paying attention at that point but didn't they say on ESPN that the lights were bothering her?
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Pletcher is not to blame for anything. He thought she was "quiet" and "almost sedated looking" while being saddled. Big deal. Are trainers supposed to order horses scratched because of how they have behave in the saddling area? ESPN showed a picture of her being saddled - and both Johnny V and a handler were both petting her and playfully smacking her shoulder to try and wake her up. The first problem was when she got on the racetrack and first tried to refuse to warm up - than stumbled a few times in her warm up. The second problem was when Johnny V. is telling the ESPN guys she's not warming up well at all. The third problem was five minutes later - when the camera came back to Life At Ten and Bailey asked Johnny V. if she's doing any better and Johnny V. tells ESPN "No. Not really." Bailey asks what's wrong - and all Johnny V. says is "I'm not sure" |
I was 5 feet from this mare in the paddock at SAR before the Personal Ensign and she was NUTSO. She's a very hot type, always tugging the handlers, usually led by 2 people. Today she looked like my friends old chestnut lesson horse out there, inspite of the crowds, the noise the lights etc. He placid demeanor was obviously a sign to Pletcher and she ran like a sick horse.
As for the betting, any 'capper had to factor her in, whether as a win candidate or a pace factor. Are KY rules the same as NY for multi race bets? Do you get the post time favorite in the event of a scratch? If so you wouldn't have gained anything because Blind Luck was (IMO)hurt by the non effort by LAT. The "real" LAT would have assured a far faster pace, making Blind Luck's chances better. |
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This is mind boggling. I wonder what kind of inquiries are being made about this. I would have thought a whole lot better would come from both TAP and JV when presented with a situation like this. |
She was treated very unfair and that is what pisses me off. Pletcher should know his own damn horse and if she is acting out of sorts or not..If they were that concerned about it (and both appeared to be) then there should have never been any other decision than to scratch her. They are lucky she did'nt have a heart attack running in that race.
Plus, how in the hell would lights cause a horse to be subdued and gimpy like she was? That to me is a total crock of crap. |
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The slowest horse on the backside of Penn National would have been in front of her. |
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Unrivalled Belle was not losing that race to anyone - she rated off of the pace ... so had the real version of Life At Ten showed up .. it wouldn't have helped Blind Luck any.
Unrivalled Belle simply ran back to that rapid win she had in her only other career start over the track when she edged out Rachel Alexandra. |
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What's he going to do - sprint onto the racetrack and use his body as a human shield to prevent his horse from being able to load into stall #1?? If the blame is on anyone - it's on the jockey and or vet. |
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Sharp post.
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Is Tyler off the wagon again?
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As far as running slow/fast that was'nt my point. My point was that because of her being in such distress, could have caused her to have a heart attack being asked to go run her a$$ off. It was all in poor judgment on all parties and I just hope there are no lasting effects from her being made to run tonight. |
I have a serious question for Vic. Why do you think A. Quinonez didnt get to retain any of the mounts he could have carried into the BC? His name shows up in the PPs as the last rider for a number of horses, and I think he has done some great riding this year.
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Again - what's he supposed to do - run onto the track and demand they scratch the horse? It's not in his hands at that point. |
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As for Switch. Sadler thinks Rosario is better than Quinonez and gave him the best possible chance. John is very refreshing in that way. He's very frank and honest about that kind of stuff. He pulls no punches. If an agent can't deal with that he can't ride for Sadler. I know Alonso was disapointed when Richard's Kid skipped the classic to point for Dubai. Not a big shock there he's Arab owned. Were there others? |
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