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Cannon Shell 07-27-2010 10:03 PM

I can't imagine a horse could be meaner or more of a terror to be around than Virginia Rapids.

Kingturf 07-27-2010 11:01 PM

I heard when Storm Cat was in his younger days was too much to handle for Team Lukas and all of his future Hall of Fame assistant trainers.

Cannon Shell 07-27-2010 11:06 PM

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Originally Posted by Kingturf (Post 674917)
I heard when Storm Cat was in his younger days was too much to handle for Team Lukas and all of his future Hall of Fame assistant trainers.

Lukas didnt train Storm Cat

Danzig 07-27-2010 11:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Thunder Gulch (Post 674899)
All I ever read about Whirlaway included some comment about how nuts he was.

i think that was because of his racing antics, not any meanness. from some of what i read, his trainer was a nut! i think it was him that the trainer sat on a horse not far off the rail and had the jock point whirlaway to the gap between him and the rail.

Danzig 07-27-2010 11:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell (Post 674918)
Lukas didnt train Storm Cat

sheppard, right?

v j stauffer 07-28-2010 01:18 AM

I used to hear stories about a claimer that several trainers had that evidently was very very mean. Banker John.

The Indomitable DrugS 07-28-2010 03:29 AM

My father has a scar on the side of his face from where a horse he trained bit him. He said not only did that horse hate him - but he was also just about the single worst claim he ever made.

He said he planned to "get even" with the horse - but "your mother" sold him for peanuts before he was able to sell him.

Antitrust32 07-28-2010 08:09 AM

I almost got seriously injured by Good Boy Sam.. and then he goes & wins a 48k allowance at Belmont next out.

Running Stag tried to take a huge hunk of flesh off Byk.

the Happy Hopper was not a happy horse, either.

lemoncrush 07-28-2010 08:16 AM

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Originally Posted by miraja2 (Post 674872)
True, but supposedly he is quite a gentleman with the mares when they are brought to him (according to the Three Chimney's tour guide a few years back).

Does he cuddle with them afterwards, and promise to call them the next day?

joeydb 07-28-2010 08:45 AM

According to Laura Hillenbrand, author of "Seabiscuit", the Biscuit's dad, "Hard Tack", was quite a mean (or at least troubled) horse.

cloud_break 07-28-2010 09:09 AM

I always remember hearing that Ribot was crazy and mean. And that they couldn't ship him back to Europe because of it.

knickslions2 07-28-2010 09:35 AM

Rock Hard Ten is one mean sob. Oh wait sorry we are talking about horses :D

paisjpq 07-28-2010 05:16 PM

Bout 6 or 7 years ago Hoofbeats (the US trotting assoc magazine) did an article about dangerous standardbreds. There was a story about a mare that I seem to remember could only be approached outside from inside the farm truck. She was finally put down when she almost killed someone...wish I could remember more details, they had some pretty crazy (IMO) routines to deal w her. I would have shot the bitch and been done w her.
Whoever said Dynaformer is a gentleman in the shed was fed a line of crap by the groom...he's not much better on the mares than he is on his groom.

Diver67 07-28-2010 06:00 PM

I've read about a Standardbred stallion--I think Nevele Pride--that had to be led by two grooms, one on each side, with the proverbial ten foot poles!

As for Hard Tack--the Fair Play line was notoriously difficult, although I never read of Man o' War being mean.

alysheba4 07-28-2010 06:43 PM

friend of mine was doing a little story about sunday silence for fox news.......he was clueless, and sunday took a good size plug on his shoulder.

doll0608 07-28-2010 08:34 PM

I had one that bit me in the chest and when I went to grab it he bit the back of my neck. He had a hold of me and was basically winging me around his stall by my neck. He was also pawing my back with his front legs. Chuck saw him as he carried me out of the stall and lost his grip in the middle of the shedrow. Thank goodness I had my helmet and vest on. This horse did the same thing to a vets assistant and broke her ribs.

Arletta 07-28-2010 08:44 PM

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Originally Posted by doll0608 (Post 675341)
I had one that bit me in the chest and when I went to grab it he bit the back of my neck. He had a hold of me and was basically winging me around his stall by my neck. He was also pawing my back with his front legs. Chuck saw him as he carried me out of the stall and lost his grip in the middle of the shedrow. Thank goodness I had my helmet and vest on. This horse did the same thing to a vets assistant and broke her ribs.

Where is the horse now?

Honu 07-28-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 675343)
Where is the horse now?

Hopefully in hell.

Riot 07-28-2010 09:00 PM

There are too many good, talented animals to waste time on the dangerous, talented animals.

doll0608 07-28-2010 09:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Honu (Post 675344)
Hopefully in hell.


Funny thing.....horse came from Monty Roberts Horse Whisperer.......I don't know where the horse is now. Last I heard some cowboys told the owners to pick him up before they took care of him for good.

Riot 07-28-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by doll0608 (Post 675356)
Funny thing.....horse came from Monty Roberts Horse Whisperer.......I don't know where the horse is now. Last I heard some cowboys told the owners to pick him up before they took care of him for good.

Well, there ya go.

From him or from one of his assistants, I wonder? (I've seen him work in person - it's kinda like Koehler Method, but for horses, the horse has to fit into the "program" ...)

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-28-2010 10:01 PM

hot canary took a bite out of hooves arm..

Merlinsky 07-28-2010 11:51 PM

Yeah Hastings was supposed to be nasty. Fair Play still a bit bonkers (not sure if he was mean or mental). Walter Farley writes the fictionalized MOW book as Mahubah being brought in to that line because the Rock Sand influence would temper the Fair Play crazy if memory serves, but this is supposedly BS. Was Rock Sand a piece of work?

my miss storm cat 07-28-2010 11:58 PM

If we're talking about nuts then we have to include the brilliant and temperamental superstah, Rakti. :cool:

doll0608 07-29-2010 09:25 AM

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Originally Posted by hoovesupsideyourhead (Post 675364)
hot canary took a bite out of hooves arm..

Hot Canary broke my leg in two

HaloWishingwell 07-29-2010 12:18 PM

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Originally Posted by alysheba4 (Post 675282)
friend of mine was doing a little story about sunday silence for fox news.......he was clueless, and sunday took a good size plug on his shoulder.

Remember Sunday Silence also gave Charlie a good kick to the head days before the Belmont too. Also heard he was a handful in Japan. Funny he is out of Halo and someone else on the thread said he was a hot head too.

OldDog 07-29-2010 02:16 PM

The one that bit into my shoulder in 1985. I don't remember his name.

I guess there may be meaner horses, but he taught me a lesson I've never forgotten.
:zz:

pgiaco 07-29-2010 06:44 PM

I've heard Blushing Groom was pretty nasty.

Betsy 07-29-2010 06:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Merlinsky (Post 675379)
Yeah Hastings was supposed to be nasty. Fair Play still a bit bonkers (not sure if he was mean or mental). Walter Farley writes the fictionalized MOW book as Mahubah being brought in to that line because the Rock Sand influence would temper the Fair Play crazy if memory serves, but this is supposedly BS. Was Rock Sand a piece of work?


From what I've read, Hastings was genuinely viscious. Fair Play was not - Fair Play was a bit "off", but not like his sire. MOW was not a horse who necessarily liked to goof around, but he was not a mean horse at all. Thanks to Farley, MOW is my favorite horse of all time.......I always wanted to be that fake groom, Danny, who jumped on MOW and took off for a midnight ride.

Merlinsky 07-31-2010 09:31 PM

http://www.bloodhorse.com/horse-raci...well-at-age-25

Looks like Dynaformer hasn't lost a step. Still "mean as a snake." Rock on, old man.


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