Being the youngest level 2 manager at Churchill Downs Inc. the last 20+ years at 26....overhauling a Kentucky Derby website that broke all traffic records in 2006, etc......inovating the kentucky oaks website, etc....But who is bragging? I know my worth and that is all I care about...I'm stll very young...Hell, I was in college a few years ago..

How many BAD horses have you bought before you finally stumbled on WLAL?...Probably well over half of your horses have NOT panned out, but I don;t hear you talking about that....When bloodstock agents brag about their purchases I just sit back and laugh because people that understnd the industry know what you are all about.....You don;t ahe to put up any of your own money and you only have to be right every so often....you pick out 60 busts before you buy her and then give her to the only trainer that can mysteriously make horses run out of there skin and the aclaim your self as a great bloodstock agent....hey, taht is your perogative....the people that understnd your part of the industry sit back and laugh everytime they hear one of you guys brag....its laughable.....it is called law of numbers and anybody will evenbtually stumble on a good horse over years and years of doing what you do....but I notice you guys never mention the ones that don't pan out - kind of like the 2-year-old filly you bought from CD earlier this year from Eddie Kenneally that now looks like a bust after throwing up at the Spa last month....

langfuhr is #11 right now on the top sires list. he's doing just fine.

I have also copied this post and it will be emailed to mr. byk

Ok so you are also the youngest one fired, which should have taught you some humility, apparently it did not.
Its one thing to write about and criticize folks doing soemthing, its another to do it.

Hey ... I thought this was a Lawyer Ron thread.

Doesn't anybody want to comment on last night's race?

I wouldn't expect anything less from you, sissy.

belong to me and langfuhr are both on the top 100 list for this year, langfuhr at #11...danzig is on there as well, not too bad for an old man. they're all on the turf list as well, altho not as high as his son danehill...and lookie there, so is war chant, lost soldier and foxhound.

and kris s...arch is moving up in the world. i've kept my eye on him the last few years, gratifying to see.

Do you know if there's a replay anywhere?

Mail this to Mr Byk Joel.
While I understand the error somewhat, you misinterpreted a post I made targeted at a specific board member and turned it into a situation where you mistakenly claimed i was speaking about Sheikh Mo and anyone who liked his horses.
Tell you what tough guy, you go back and read through every post I ever made, I havent erased any and wont now. You won't find one that alludes to what you have accused me of. You apologize to me after reviewing my posts or i will make DAMN sure that your lies and inaccurate statements about me are addressed.
If you have any honor whatsoever, you will go back and see where you made your error in interpretation, apologize, and we won't mention it again.
But you will address this lie that you have perpetuated or I will.

didn't criticize anybody...that was YOU who started the persoanl atytacks tough guy...Oh, and no retraction anywhere..i know what you meant...i've been reading your posts consistently for a while to understand you stance..."America vs. Arabs"...

i will. tough to do so since it seems to be as easy to watch that re-play as that south park episode with tom cruise.....


is the super derby still slated as his next start?? bright one is supposed to be headed there as well.

Can Anyone See How Counterproductive And Wastful Of Time This Gets When Things Get Personal? :d

I own an Arch filly...i hope your right there :)

Yeah you get all bent out of shape and act like a child with threats of telling mom what others said about you. It's fun to watch.

Oh and maybe you'll notice the CAPS filter. Just use a space or two if you want to type in all caps.

Well isnt this the lying pot calling the lying kettle black?
Once again, in front of us all, please show us the posts where I said the things about Sheikh Mo or anyone who likes his horses that you claim I said.
When I got back home last night i was STUNNED at what you had done to that thread and where you had taken it. It was complete cowardly bull****. I never said any such things about Sheikh Mo, either here nor elsewhere. You have a lot of nerve making things up about other people and then talking about getting personal Joel. You goofed on this one, tell you what, you find me the post where i called Sheikh Mo anything of the sort, and I will leave this board for good, gone goodbye.

Yeah, right...you have already cleaned it up......go ahead and address what everf you want...

you've deleted them.....

I have not cleaned up a thing, havent edited or touhced one word of any post I've made.
Notice that noone will jump to your defense on this one, despite the fact that plenty are ready to always jump on me or take me on. The reason noone has come to your aid is because they already read the thread through and realize that you goofed, that i never spoke that way about Sheikh Mo. But in your fervent obsessive haste to defend your Royal family against anyonme who might criticize them, you jumped at shadows that werent there and started a smear campaign against me.
Smarten up Joel. Go back and read things through, I already explained where you made the error in interpretation, but it was indeed an error.

Little lying pansy is what you are. There is a record of deleted posts Joel, the post shows as deleted. I never deleted a damn post I made. Don't you get it yet? You just plain goofed.

I have gotten 4 PMs in the last 15 minutes, Oracle....you are wrong AGIAN...

i have searched the world over....well, not really, but nothing so far

everyone's best bet would be to tape or dvr wire to wire and hope they have it there. early wed am.

Show me the post then, please. Go ahead and show it to me. I'll be waiting Joel.

Mike, this is wrong. Edited posts have a record, deleted posts do not. I just deleted a couple of mine pointless ones to see.

For the record, I don't see where Oracle deleted posts but I am going to say that this is gone too far. Mike, you should have never even mentioned Arabs and terrorism, a bad move because it is automatic controversy......

Only if you subscribe to a service with a video library, I think. I watched and taped it on TVG. They will probably replay it sometime today.

Track was gooey after heavy rain the previous overnight, officially good but the horses came back pretty plastered with it. Ron sat back in fifth, 5 or 6 back of a quintet who made the early fractions. He moved up around horses on the turn and engaged the remaining leader, Lewis Micheal at the top of the stretch. He put that one away, but Smokeyjonessutton (one of my boxcar winners at Kee last spring) had slipped up the rail and was still running, too. Ron battled him for a bit, but was drawing away at the end. All in all, a good return race, the right sort of test for a horse that is not yet in optimum racing condition.

seth han**** had an offer for arch a few years ago...while debating, and almost taking it, prince arch and montgomerys arch hit the scene. offer rejected.
he's up to #17 on the list now for '06...he's done well here and overseas. les arcs in europe, and now pine island and arravale last wknd. those two fillies will move him up in the next bhorse edition.

i always liked kris s, and arch is turning into a good rep for him. better late than never for kris s! i know some are hoping rock hard ten will do well...but i think arch is helped out by his broodmare sire as well!! (ya now i had to put that in there...)

Good to see Lawyer Ron is back and already winning. :)
Brother Derek and Sharp Humor should be next.

Agreed...........my primary problem is getting PERSONAL wioth things...it is uncalled for...tell me you don't agree with my article or point of view...fine, it is the point of this chatboard...But, nobody has the right to start any type of personal slander.....just childish...you don't know me and never will...how could you comment on what you don't know and why? The rich daddy / pansy ' Arab ass-kisser / everything else I have cosen to forget is simply over the top and uncalled for.....I'll leave it at that...

Thanks, PA. I'm so annoyed I can't find the race to see it.

And thanks, BB, for your heroic attempt to wrest this thread back to being about LR... did you see the race? What did you observe?

I LOVE Rock Hard Ten and almost bred to him this year because he was such a good racehorse IMO (I thought he would have beaten St. Liam in last year's BC Classic had he not scratched out) but I COULD NOT get over the fact that he was a Kris S. - so i went to Vindication instead....

my only concern about rock hard ten is his size....too big. if i had to choose between him and vindication, i'd have gone to the latter as well.

Stallions by Danzig who have sired group or graded winners:
Chief's Crown, Dayjur, Pine Bluff, Polish Precedent, Polish Patriot, Danehill, Polish Navy, Shaadi, Lure,Green Desert, Anabaa, Lost Soldier, Dumaani, Maroof, Bertolini, Military, Mujahid, Monashee Mountain, Boundary, War Chant, Petit Loup, Brahms, Emperor Jones, Ishiguru, Partner's Hero, Danzig Connection, Eagle Eyed, Langfuhr. I may not have caught them all. I'd call that a pretty good collection. A lot of these were overseas, like the Danehills.

I got to visit Danzig at Claiborne a few years ago; he was very old but still in good shape. Very mellow (or just too old to bother), let us pet and fuss over him. Nearly a carbon copy of Northern Dancer, without the bright white markings. Little bulldog of a horse. Why do people think big=good and small=bad? Plenty of counterexamples.

Yeah, I'm not saying trhat there isn't exceptions...look at Chief's Criown for instance...he was a HORRIBLE stallion relative to how good of a racehorse he was.....so was Dayjur and Pine Bluff - no denying that.....

Why are you asking me that ... you friggin' little pansy!!!

Oooops ... sorry ... I'm getting a little too wound up in this thread. What was the question again?

Oh, yeah ... Lawyer Ron ... I didn't see the race ... just reviewed the chart.

He didn't set off skyrockets ... but he did beat some horses who were in better shape than he was. It shows that he's a decent quality race horse ... but I don't think he'll ever break Bernardini's heart.

That made me laugh out loud. Though, since I'm a girl-- I think you'd have to call me a ballbusting bulldyke or something like that. :) Hee hee.

I agree with you on LR vs. Bernardini-- in fact, I don't think any three-year-old can break Bernardini's heart at this point, but I'm glad LR did well. And I hope he'll be back as a 4-year-old, too...

Useless trivia-- "Pansy O'Hara" was Margaret Mitchell's original name choice for her immortal heroine.

And her true love ... was Ian Wilkes.

Lawyer Ron recieved a 103 Beyer FYI.....

So horrible that he is now a Chef-de-race. Check the Roman site.

Yeah ... and so is Appalachee ...

... copying and pasting doesn't make you an expert.

Give it up, honey.

List 5 improtant horses that Chief's Crown sired...I doubt you could even list that many....I'm telling you that danzig blood on the paternal side really isn't that great relative to how good of racehorses they were and the mares they got, etc.....I love Danzig as much as the next person, but he just has been very average as a sire of sires.....I like him on the broodmare side, though

Anyone know who else is headed to the Super Derby? (If Lawyer Ron goes, of course...). It would be good to see a few of the old gang clash again -- LR, Bro Derek, SNS. There are still quite a few good 3yo's out there if they can stay healthy.