It would be funny if Clausen is reunited with Weiss.

:D

Very good point. I think the Chiefs grab him in the 2nd round because of this.

I don't think you can assume Weiss is in love with him because he coached him in college. It may be the exact opposite and Weiss may want to stay away since he has intimate knowledge of Clausen's shortcomings.

I don't know anything about it, but just playing devil's advocate.

You mean Scott Pioli didnt call and get input?

Guess not. 48 picks in he finally gets taken by the Panthers.

A sneaking suspicion that character means a lot in this draft given the Rothlisberger debacle.

Jon Gruden has funny hair

Yeah, what a bunch of shitheads, getting a top 10 corner and then a Super Bowl MVP for a half a bag of chips, then convincing a first ballot HOF RB to agree to being a backup. The Taylor move is anathema to us fans, but it's low risk high reward. What else? I don't like cutting Faneca, but other than that, all Tannenbaum's done this offseason is rob teams left and right for star players. How can you have a problem with that? Oh, I know, if you're on a high horse about "character" and other meaningless non-football cliches.

The jets didnt screw around thats for sure. I don't like Ladanian in place of Thomas Jones but the rest of the moves are hard to argue with.

How can anyone not love the Santonio Holmes deal? In his prime, signed for one year at pittsburgh money. If he sucks, you let him go. If he is what he has been, you have a topnotch receiver. There is NO RISK and incredibly high reward. This deal alone would be a successful offseason in my book. Throw in the other parts and it is a total slam dunk.

This is a fair assessment and I agree ... regardless of his reasons for taking him, I'm glad he did. Perhaps Tim will have the chance to prove himself because of it. Regardless, Tebow will sell some major merchandise for the franchise, so he's not a total waste anyway ... :)

Especially since he wears #15..........They will just take all those formerly useless Marshall shirts and put the Tebow name plate on them. Saved the Broncos and NFL a lot of money.

The Steelers dont regularly just give away great players coming off of their best season.

I guess it just depends on what your definition of "great" is. Pittsburgh has a history of letting players go via free agency after really good seasons. They have to. The owners aren't extremely wealthy outside of the team (relatively speaking of course) and they can't throw signing bonuses around to keep all of their good players. Leon Searcy?

They knew that Holmes was gone after next season anyway. He was going to be out four games and with all of the trouble with him and Ben, he was the perfect "example". The Jets were in the right place at the right time and willing to take the plunge. The jets really have nothing to lose. Contract is up and if he doesnt perform they can simply cut him. Where is the risk?

The Rooneys are plenty wealthy but that doesnt really matter because there is a salary cap in football.

How many of those players were better after leaving? Because Holmes career has shown himself to be simply pretty good and that is with a better QB throwing him the ball.

The risk is that they are depending on a guy that is one step away from playing no games next year. You cant just pick up starting quality NFL receivers on the fly. I agree that in the short term he may be worth the risk. But it is a stretch to say the acquisition of Santonio holmes make the Jets offseason a huge success.

Of course I am biased but I am not worried that Cromartie or Holmes or the 2 washed up guys are going to make much of an impact. What I am worried about is the continuation of the jets mysterious spell over opposing kickers. That is a far greater weapon than any of the new guys.

Guess I have to change my avatar. :(

I didnt say the Rooneys weren't wealthy. They are wealthy but a vast majority of their wealth is in the team. Compared to the Dan Snyders of the world (see relativelyspeaking) they aren't in the same league.

I am extremely surprised by this statement. I don't mean to jump on you here but I don't think that is coming out the way you intended. Are you really saying that an owner's individual worth "really doesn't matter" in regards to signing free agents because of the salary cap?

The Rooney family is plenty wealthy. That little harness track in Yonkers is basically a money printing machine.

Yes an owners wealth really doesnt matter in regards to signing free agents. If it does then how does Green Bay sign anyone?

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Chuck i need a horse. I can't pick a horse to save my life. Can you throw one out for a fan of yours?

In the NFL there is a hard cap and floor. Last year it was 128 million and the floor was 87.5% of that number. The cap is based upon the per team revenues. Extra benefits above the cap are capped at $12 million. So basically the teams HAVE to spend a certain amount on their payroll and CANT spend more than a certain amount all of which is based on guaranteed shared revenue. So how exactly does an owners individual wealth matter when signing FA's?

Now the extra's like stadium deals, payroll for coaches and staff, facilities, etc can no doubt be affected by an owners wealth but I dont see how an owners individual wealth matters in matters of free agency. It is really the main reason why the NFL is such a competitive league and there arent any FL marlins, just mismanaged teams (Redskins)

Angry Dragon...but it may be awhile

I''m a Bills fan. Does anyone agree that this draft for the Bills is about as bad as it gets.

Speaking of the skins, they practically gave away campbell. A fourth rounder, two years from now, for him. Was that the best they could do??

I thought that was an extremely generous offer

Yeah he sucks.

Yes.

The Bills have been bad for years. Do you expect it to end soon?

Not until Ralph dies as sick as that sounds.

Wow your wishing death on a person? This Ralph person must really in whatever his position is with the Bills. Is my man from Penn State still playing linebacker for the Bills?

Glad to see you're as on top of things in sports as you are in politics.

Nice try on spin dirtbag. Maybe you are stupid enough to extrapolate my simple statement as wishing death on someone but I don't think others are. You would sound less like a hillbilly if you can learn the difference between your and you're

I like that he put forth a strong opinion on the Bills without knowing who "this Ralph person" is.

true..and yet they thought he was a step up from jamarcus-which he is. just surprised that they'd take a 4th rounder for him, two years from now. but i think they'd have taken a couple prizes from cracker jack boxes, they just wanted rid of him.

You expect anything different? Bills continue to draft for ticket sales instead of need. If they played their cards right LAST YEAR they could have Jason Peters And Michael Oehr. Instead the have a 230 lb Defensive End and a flashy running back that isn't considered an every down back.

First off im not a hillbilly douchebag. At least im not a douchebag like you and keep on using someone's quotes all the time. Who is the hillbilly now douchebag? Just because I live in Texas doesnt mean im a hillbilly. I have only been for in Texas for 5 years you piece of trailor park trash. Actually im taking that back, a person who is trailer park trash probably has more brain cells than you and im sure they could come up with thier own quotes and not keep on using someone's else quote like you do all the time. Please go crawl back into your hole if your worthless @ss can fit into it.

Looks like you and the Bills have something in common. No brain cells. No wonder you like the Bills.

Thank you very much and I hope you enjoy the rest of your weekend. You know what I could care less about the Bills. All I care about are my Pittsburgh based teams, since I spent my life near Pittsburgh before I joined the military. Before anyone else says anything Big Ben got what he deserved and I hope he learns his lesson and becomes a productive person off the field.

I was serious about thinking that was pretty good for him. Didnt think they would get anything better than a 6th or 7th round pick for him or simply be forced to release him. There are lots of 4th round picks playing in the NFL that are a whole lot better at their position than Jason Campbell is at his. He really is better suited as a backup though with the raiders he is like Johnny U compared to what was taking snaps under center last year.

This is brilliant stuff.

I thought the Skins a$$ raped the Raiders on that trade, and they are usually the ones on the other end of the transaction prism. 4th and 5th rounders are not picks to scoff at, they are the ones that the Eagles usually hit on. They are not a 'bag of chips' or whatever Ateam described as giving up for Santonio Holmes.

They aren't looking for him to be TJ. Shonn Greene is probably going to be the man this year with Tomlinson coming off the bench. That being said, I thought that they should have kept TJ. But I think that they could have done a lot worse than Tomlinson as a backup. I believe he still has a little left in those legs.

TJ didn't want to be a backup. I'd rather have Tomlinson as a willing backup than a disgruntled TJ. Also, people continually fail to recognize that TJ ran behind the best run blocking line in the NFL and Tomlinson ran behind the worst. That's going to make a huge difference, although the Jets' run blocking got weaker with the release of Faneca. Even at his best, TJ was always a product of his blockers. If he gets 3/4 of his '09 production with Kansas City, I'd be shocked.