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freddymo 03-15-2010 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Oh, you got PMs! Love that. I guess that makes me a meanie. Are you sure they weren't notes passed when the teacher wasn't looking.

Love the last part. A...I didn't do that and, more importantly, you have made so many ludicrous sexist remarks on this board it's beyond ridiculous.

The only PM I need is a nude from Sightseek

Sightseek 03-15-2010 08:50 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
The only PM I need is a nude from Sightseek


Hey, I'm in here you know!

VOL JACK 03-15-2010 08:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You know what, I understand exactly what it means, matter fact, I am the definition of that. But he has what I consider coming after me a couple times, and I have gotten several PMs from others asking why.

I feel the comment I made was a pretty simple one saying that specific Arlington guys are attracted to horses like this one (and added another one later), and I even used a couple of examples, and he turned it into god knows what.

I can care less about being made fun of when it is harmless, I can roll with the punches with the best of them, hell, I hang out with Satan's Twin all summer, you develop thick skin from that alone. But when you start talking about sex life or money, or mothers, or family or sexual preference or religion or any of those things that set people off, I just think that is a little too far

Good thing you don't have my friends.

freddymo 03-15-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Sightseek
Hey, I'm in here you know!

Sorry I missed your PM

Scav 03-15-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Oh, you got PMs! Love that. I guess that makes me a meanie. Are you sure they weren't notes passed when the teacher wasn't looking.

Love the last part. A...I didn't do that and, more importantly, you have made so many ludicrous sexist remarks on this board it's beyond ridiculous.

MANY?

Your just typing..

How isn't talking about woman you slept with, and woman I have slept with, talking about my sex life? How did you not do that?

Wow....Love to see all these supposed sexist comments, and I haven't gotten one NEGATIVE PM about my posts, EVER. I have physically chilled with a couple of the woman on this board, and I have had great times with most of them.

So for all of DT, if I ever offend any of you, please, feel free to holla at me.

freddymo 03-15-2010 08:52 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Good thing you don't have my friends.

BTW does.....a few

freddymo 03-15-2010 08:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
MANY?

Your just typing..

How isn't talking about woman you slept with, and woman I have slept with, talking about my sex life? How did you not do that?

Wow....Love to see all these supposed sexist comments, and I haven't gotten one NEGATIVE PM about my posts, EVER. I have physically chilled with a couple of the woman on this board, and I have had great times with most of them.

So for all of DT, if I ever offend any of you, please, feel free to holla at me.

Feel free to delete this post ASAP

Scav 03-15-2010 08:54 PM

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Originally Posted by VOL JACK
Good thing you don't have my friends.

I am speaking in terms of internet conversations. There is plenty of times that I am governing my friends, especially after a couple beers.....

freddymo 03-15-2010 08:55 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
I am speaking in terms of internet conversations. There is plenty of times that I am governing my friends, especially after a couple beers.....

Tom let it go it all ends bad..

blackthroatedwind 03-15-2010 08:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
MANY?

Your just typing..

How isn't talking about woman you slept with, and woman I have slept with, talking about my sex life? How did you not do that?

Wow....Love to see all these supposed sexist comments, and I haven't gotten one NEGATIVE PM about my posts, EVER. I have physically chilled with a couple of the woman on this board, and I have had great times with most of them.

So for all of DT, if I ever offend any of you, please, feel free to holla at me.


This is embarrassing.

I was responding to a prior post ( a Seinfeld reference by the way....as I know you love a reference ) by making fun of both of us. Sorry if you couldn't see that. Funny....Payson Dave did.

But, thanks for letting us know you " physically chilled with a couple wom(e)n on this board. "

Oh boy....is it me?

RockHardTen1985 03-15-2010 09:00 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
MANY?

Your just typing..

How isn't talking about woman you slept with, and woman I have slept with, talking about my sex life? How did you not do that?

Wow....Love to see all these supposed sexist comments, and I haven't gotten one NEGATIVE PM about my posts, EVER. I have physically chilled with a couple of the woman on this board, and I have had great times with most of them.

So for all of DT, if I ever offend any of you, please, feel free to holla at me.

I think I sent you a negative PM.

RockHardTen1985 03-15-2010 09:01 PM

We should all take sides and have a war....

my miss storm cat 03-15-2010 09:03 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
We should all take sides and have a war....

:D :tro:

Scav 03-15-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
This is embarrassing.

I was responding to a prior post ( a Seinfeld reference by the way....as I know you love a reference ) by making fun of both of us. Sorry if you couldn't see that. Funny....Payson Dave did.

But, thanks for letting us know you " physically chilled with a couple wom(e)n on this board. "

Oh boy....is it me?

Ok, sorry, I wouldn't want to be sexist and leave all the guys I have chilled with also. My bad.

RockHardTen1985 03-15-2010 09:04 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Ok, sorry, I wouldn't want to be sexist and leave all the guys I have chilled with also. My bad.

Scav, if you ask... I'll take your side, just reach out to the kid.

NTamm1215 03-15-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Scav, if you ask... I'll take your side, just reach out to the kid.

You're what gives Italians a bad name, taking sides after it starts.

NT

hockey2315 03-15-2010 09:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Ok, sorry, I wouldn't want to be sexist and leave all the guys I have chilled with also. My bad.

Oh god.

blackthroatedwind 03-15-2010 09:08 PM

The discussion was about whether or not this horse would be inundated with claims. I thought the same thing when he ran for a quarter in NY in the Fall and when he wasn't I assumed there was probably something obvious ( or known ) that kept EVERYONE at bay. When Dutrow got away with it again in NJ, where pretty much every mid-Atlantic trainer could have taken him, I felt even more certain. Maybe I'm wrong and they were just afraid to take from Dutrow, but it did seem surprising that NOBODY wanted this horse. Maybe I should have made all this clear from the start.

The rest of the whining is just a deflection from the topic.

herkhorse 03-15-2010 09:10 PM

Where's the gong icon when you need it?

RockHardTen1985 03-15-2010 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
The discussion was about whether or not this horse would be inundated with claims. I thought the same thing when he ran for a quarter in NY in the Fall and when he wasn't I assumed there was probably something obvious ( or known ) that kept EVERYONE at bay. When Dutrow got away with it again in NJ, where pretty much every mid-Atlantic trainer could have taken him, I felt even more certain. Maybe I'm wrong and they were just afraid to take from Dutrow, but it did seem surprising that NOBODY wanted this horse. Maybe I should have made all this clear from the start.

The rest of the whining is just a deflection from the topic.

I think for once, ppl will agree with me on this....
Its a lot better off topic.

blackthroatedwind 03-15-2010 09:11 PM

The other possibility is that it was also late in the turf season and nobody wanted to claim him and either pay the expense to ship him to Florida or wait until the Spring/Summer to run him in the East. Thus, now he would be a better claim. I suppose that is also a possibility.

blackthroatedwind 03-15-2010 09:13 PM

It's not even remotely off-topic. It's actually an interesting concept/discussion about a racing situation. I'm sorry it got deflected into some personal battle ( I guess if I disagree with someone I'm just being an ******* ).

I shouldn't have joked in response to the Seinfeld reference...and I tend to forget that attempts at humor are often misinterpreted.

docicu3 03-15-2010 09:22 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's not even remotely off-topic. It's actually an interesting concept/discussion about a racing situation. I'm sorry it got deflected into some personal battle ( I guess if I disagree with someone I'm just being an ******* ).

I shouldn't have joked in response to the Seinfeld reference...and I tend to forget that attempts at humor are often misinterpreted.


But sometimes your just funny as hell and seepage is unfortunately the consequence of such humor......

Scav 03-15-2010 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
It's not even remotely off-topic. It's actually an interesting concept/discussion about a racing situation. I'm sorry it got deflected into some personal battle ( I guess if I disagree with someone I'm just being an ******* ).

I shouldn't have joked in response to the Seinfeld reference...and I tend to forget that attempts at humor are often misinterpreted.

You can disagree with me a million times man, matter fact, you probably already do. As always, it is how you do it/say it.

The fact that you disagree with me is shocking anyways because last I remember, you followed Gulfstream and one specific guy (Rivelli) has claimed three horses off of Dutrow in what is almost the same situation, and others have claimed at that 25k level. More importantly and specific to these now two horses, at ARLINGTON, they will be able to compete at the 16k starter and 25-35k open claimers level, which are races they write and fill all the time, and Rivelli, Catalano, Miller, Canani and Stidham claim horses for those specific levels constantly

freddymo 03-15-2010 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Ok, sorry, I wouldn't want to be sexist and leave all the guys I have chilled with also. My bad.

Nothing about this thread makes sense, Scavs.
Dutrow is looking to steal money. He knows his horse is fast but has issues. He is willing to lose a Graded charge for 15k... Considering how lucky you have to be to have a graded horse evolve,I think the horse while fast, has issues, which Dutrow has been treating. Trainers know Dutrow isnt going to toss an earner to the wind. It is unlikely that anyone will claim the horse. Bob wouldnt claim him I would nt claim him nor would Vol Jack etc. I am not going to be able to out vet dutrow and his team. Dutrow is a sharp horseman I would use him in a country minute if I had the resources for him to be interested!!!!!!!!!!

Duvalier 03-15-2010 09:28 PM

That horse kinda looks like a big vet bill waiting to happen.

freddymo 03-15-2010 09:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
That horse kinda looks like a big vet bill waiting to happen.

Big gets you to the track enormous gets you to a 12k check

RockHardTen1985 03-15-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
That horse kinda looks like a big vet bill waiting to happen.

That was Andys point all along.

Scav 03-15-2010 09:30 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Nothing about this thread makes sense, Scavs.
Dutrow is looking to steal money. He knows his horse is fast but has issues. He is willing to lose a Graded charge for 15k... Considering how lucky you have to be to have a graded horse evolve,I think the horse while fast, has issues, which Dutrow has been treating. Trainers know Dutrow isnt going to toss an earner to the wind. It is unlikely that anyone will claim the horse. Bob wouldnt claim him I would nt claim him nor would Vol Jack etc. I am not going to be able to out vet dutrow and his team. Dutrow is a sharp horseman I would use him in a country minute if I had the resources for him to be interested!!!!!!!!!!


FOR **** SAKE!! I was NEVER SAYING TO CLAIM THIS F'N horse.

ALL I was ****ING SAYING was that there is a few Arlington guys that claim horses like this all the F'N time. ****. F'n Rivelli has a slug in Optimer which is a perfect f'n EXAMPLE!

Duvalier 03-15-2010 09:31 PM

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Originally Posted by freddymo
Big gets you to the track enormous gets you to a 12k check

You're right. You know who could use that horse.

RockHardTen1985 03-15-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
FOR **** SAKE!! I was NEVER SAYING TO CLAIM THIS F'N horse.

ALL I was ****ING SAYING was that there is a few Arlington guys that claim horses like this all the F'N time. ****. F'n Rivelli has a slug in Optimer which is a perfect f'n EXAMPLE!

Control yourself man...

blackthroatedwind 03-15-2010 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
You can disagree with me a million times man, matter fact, you probably already do. As always, it is how you do it/say it.

The fact that you disagree with me is shocking anyways because last I remember, you followed Gulfstream and one specific guy (Rivelli) has claimed three horses off of Dutrow in what is almost the same situation, and others have claimed at that 25k level. More importantly and specific to these now two horses, at ARLINGTON, they will be able to compete at the 16k starter and 25-35k open claimers level, which are races they write and fill all the time, and Rivelli, Catalano, Miller, Canani and Stidham claim horses for those specific levels constantly


What I argued with was you saying everyone and their brother, essentially, was going to go in for the horse.

If you had started out by saying one guy, and a guy who has claimed from Dutrow before, would take him, this entire conversation wouldn't have taken place.

Scav 03-15-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
Control yourself man...

:D

Duvalier 03-15-2010 09:33 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
That was Andys point all along.

Yeah the horse most likely has alot of holes and there aren't too many trainers sharper than Dutrow. I'm sure BTW has seen this a few times before...Dutrow jamming one down their throats during his years following the NY circuit.

freddymo 03-15-2010 09:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Duvalier
You're right. You know who could use that horse.

Ja me Ne ss

Scav 03-15-2010 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
What I argued with was you saying everyone and their brother, essentially, was going to go in for the horse.

If you had started out by saying one guy, and a guy who has claimed from Dutrow before, would take him, this entire conversation wouldn't have taken place.

Andy, I said three guys, all specific to Arlington. All three aggressive claiming guys.

Listen, I am done and over with this. This got way out of hand and way too serious for how it should have been.

People, including myself, could have actually learned something, instead they saw two grown men bicker

RockHardTen1985 03-15-2010 09:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Andy, I said three guys, all specific to Arlington. All three aggressive claiming guys.

Listen, I am done and over with this. This got way out of hand and way too serious for how it should have been.

People, including myself, could have actually learned something, instead they saw two grown men bicker


I enjoyed it.

blackthroatedwind 03-15-2010 09:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Scav
Andy, I said three guys, all specific to Arlington. All three aggressive claiming guys.

Listen, I am done and over with this. This got way out of hand and way too serious for how it should have been.

People, including myself, could have actually learned something, instead they saw two grown men bicker


The bickering is because you took it off topic ( and I contributed with my ill-advised joke for sure ) by acting as though disagreeing is personal and suggesting a lot of unnecessary things.

Yes, Scav, you said three Arlington guys. What you don't seem to get is what that implies....and I think you are dead wrong about this. It implies that only these midwest trainers have access to Starter Handicaps and/or understand the value of claiming a horse that is eligible for them.

10 pnt move up 03-15-2010 09:42 PM

This is great stuff

gales0678 03-15-2010 09:42 PM

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Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985
I enjoyed it.


ricky did to:D :D


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