Totally crazy. I just tracked down that payoff. It was "Bonita Sonador" in race 7 on the first day of the contest, Jan 1. An MSW. The winner went off at 58.90-1 in an 8-horse race, and the next highest odds were only 13.50-1. I can only imagine (not having them) what the PP's must look like.

How does someone pick a horse like that in a Winvivor contest?! The person is still alive in the contest two days later. I wonder what odds those next winning picks went off at!

--Dunbar

I like your number better. I bet the person that picked the $100 horse simply made a mistake. No one can have that many stones.

So who are you guys going with tomorrow?

Yankee Romance in the 1st.

--Dunbar

Race 3: #07 - Coracao Beijo

I used Roman Charity in the 1st.

She barely got 3rd...whew that one gave me a heart attack

45% just got knocked out because of that first race....

Yep, I was knocked out of both contests.

Good luck to the survivors!

--Dunbar

I'm still in showvivor, but got booted from winvivor. Had the place horse in the 3rd.

Im in still, that horse in race 1 was a giant trap. 23 opening quarter last time, if needed to run early I thought he would fold.

Race 1: #01 - Space Age Lovesong

Only 426 left after today.

January 7th, 2010 - Race 3 - #06 Mother Ruth

I got word from Santa Anita, I am 3-5 chalk to win this thing.

I wanted to use this race, but did not trust any of them. I have made my Baffert love clear around here, but 5 of these can win, that means 5 can run good, I thought it was way to risky.

The other I wanted to consider was the 1st, but I try to avoid maiden races whenever possible in these contests. I know it's risky, but when BB's have good works like this one, they're ready to run.

I'm the opposite. I think cheap maiden claimers eliminate a lot of variables since half the field cannot outrun a cow.

I think in the 1st race tomorrow...only 2 horses can win

I used Zilla today, and I have no idea why, today's results....

247 people selected #04 Chicago Gal in race 1
19 people selected #01 Space Age Lovesong in race 1
7 people selected #03 Be Driven in race 1
3 people selected #06 Big Bad Boo in race 2
2 people selected #07 Guerrero Negro in race 2
33 people selected #01 Peacock Alliance in race 2
41 people selected #06 Mother Ruth in race 3
13 people selected #04 Sleep Tight in race 3
6 people selected #02 Dotsy Jean in race 3
3 people selected #05 Emmy Darling in race 3
11 people selected #01 Hot Damon in race 4
6 people selected #07 Wells Furgo in race 5
1 person selected #08 Stray Cat in race 6
1 person selected #02 Boo Too in race 6
3 people selected #06 Via Veneto in race 7
9 people selected #09 Underground in race 7

I used Chicago Gal. Did I say only 2 horses could have won the 1st race? I meant 3 :)

Well in any case, my horse finished 2nd so I live for another day

Me 2, I ran third in race 1.

Race 1: #02 - Cape Finisterre

I put a dime on you to win this thing, I got 7/5 on Betfair, you better not screw it up...

Good... I got another email today, for some reasson I am now up to 5-2. I think its because of a few thirds.

You understand the legacy you will have in winning that thing right?

I mean, you would go down in internet history, man!

someone from here needs to win it. Good luck since I was one of the KO'd today. Next time I'll rethink the maiden strategy in it :zz:

today could be the last day of Winvivor. 3 of the remaining 7 are already out after the 1st race. The remaining 4 players are divided 3-1 on 2 horses in the 4th race.

If all 7 go out today, they would split the $2500 equally.

--Dunbar

neither of those two in the 4th won.

I wondered what would happen if all 7 went out. (I never bother to read the rules unless I get close to the finish - under 200 left.) I thought technically the ones who chose in the 1st race were actually eliminated before those who had chosen in the 4th race. Glad they all share in the prize.

Jan 09 3 06 Position A

tomorrow is tough. I'm racking my head trying to figure out an easy race to play.

Just find a willing runner and be done with it.

Using the actual exit race as a tiebreaker would make the contest much more interesting! There would be big incentive to not pick until the later races. You'd have to balance the chance of the horse winning with the chance that others will be picking horses that run before/after you.

--Dunbar

I ended up going with Moonskipper in the 1st race and she finished 3rd. I just was hesitant because there was no pace in the race.

Tough one considering the entire field was only separated by a little more than a length.

Nice showing anyways.

Not really , this is when you look at the trainer/rider and not the horses racing. Porp A was the slowest horse in that race. Willing just too slow.

Huh? What are you even saying?

Look at the chart - the field was very bunched.

I didn't look at the race beforehand and wouldn't have had an opinion if I had, but how was he the slowest horse in the race?

Best fig for each horse:

Unusual Smoke: 93
Banner Lodge: 97
Cadillac: 96
Calimonco: 86
Achak: 85
"Porpoise A": 93

Beyers are so out dated.

Postion A appears to be a need the lead type and with the #2 and #4 most likely were going to be on the lead and if Postion A didn't get a clear lead he didn't have a chance being the slowest finisher on the down hill turf. That's what I saw and didn't play the race. I didn't watch it or realy look at the chart, but I will now that I gave an opinion.

You're the one who called him the slowest horse. What, exactly, was your evidence for that?

Bris speed figs.

Race Summary
Days P Avg Dist/Surf Avg Final Speed Rcg Pedigree Stats Dam
MLMed Since Run T PACE-SPEED Race Best Pace Spd Mud % % Sire Sire's
# HorseName Odds Eqp L/R Style S E1 E2/Late Spd Rtng E1 E2/Late Sp1 Sp2 Sp3 Sp4 ACL Avg R1 R2 R3 Spd Mud Trf AWD AWD
1 Unusual Smoke 15/1 L 167 +E/P 1 89 99/ 87 ( 96) 117 92 105/ 96 91T 87 89 97T 116.7 89 117 119 117 13 16 7.1 7.2
3 Cadillac 5/2 L 57.. S 80 93/ 95 * 94* 117 83 95/102 96T 92T 92T 90T 117.3 93 117 116 116 9 9.3 7.6
4 Calimonco 6/1 L 44 P 87 92/ 92 * 92* 114 93 93/101 92T 97 88T 91T 117.3 92 117 115 115 19 17 7.0 8.1
2 Banner Lodge 2/1 L 41.. +E/P 3 88 94/ 91 * 91* 118 96 99/ 91 86T 95T 89T 94T 117.2 90 118 117 118 14 17 7.8 7.3
5 Achak 4/1 L 66.. S 1 81 84/ 98 ( 89) 115 81 86/ 99 89T 88T 115.6 88 115 114 12 6.8 7.3
6 Position A 3/1 L 126 +E/P 5 89 96/ 86 ( 88) 115 89 97/ 94 90 94 92 89T 116.5 92 118 117 117 17 13 7.1 7.0

Bris figs. OH MY GOD. . . If Beyer figs are outdated, which they're not, Bris Figs were never and will never be relevant.