Marty, I like you, but you have been out of your mind lately.

You just can't win every race .

All this thread needs is
 

The economy is fine

listen when horse after horse you bet doesn't break , misses the break , rears in the gate you would go out of your mind too if you were playing multiple tracks and all the gate / break issues were at the same place

i played GP and lost today , i played FG the other day and lost i can take the losing , i can take bad racing luck , but , it always seems to happen to me in NY that's all

It's a good thing you can take losing.

Why bet it then?

I only play 3 tracks and Aqu ain't one of them

Da Hoss's jumbled up rambling, he calls a post. See Post #24

well i'll leave off with a final report from the otb after r7


not a table was broken
not a chair smashed

no gurads were summoned to escort any patrons ,evey one just went back and started bashing bush again!

oh, well... I guess it is good they lost

My gawd!!! The horse that blew the turn was already explained. The horse broke a rein. Ever try to steer a horse without a rein! Fact, I was there.

The 10 sat to take a load off his feet at the wrong time. There was a long inquiry that I assume included the horse that wanted to check out the cars by the training track as well as the horse who wanted to relax a bit.

Andy explained the betting payouts well.

But it isn't just Andy as your remark regarding the horse blowing a "routine turn" suggests. You just don't want to hear it.

I get it. Everyone here complaining didn't win and therefore someone must have cheated or is engaged in a cover-up.

Signed, Not an employee of NYRA.

Making jokes here equals sanity.

like i always say if your horse got bump, tripped sat down bad jockey ride, tracffic,you picked the wrong horse pretty simple get ready for tommorrow and forget it you'll never get that same money back.

:tro:

not sure if you are correct on the above, the numbers the public see are after the takeout , so the tri pool from my understanding was $196k

ok guys in the ny post today:

race 7 - "lots of wierd ways to lose a race"

"as the gates opened the #10 reared up, sat down ,and appeared to be in the hands of the starter at the break, but no refund"

well i guess ed fountaine has no crediblitly either he must be watching these races with me at the local otb parlor

so, they're supposed to refund when a horse rears up and sits down? how did the starter cause the problem if most of the problem seems to be the horse?

but then, i don't understand how you can ask a guy to explain, suggest meeting him to figure things out, and then tell him he has no credibility anyway. seems a bit of a puzzle there as well.

are you sure about this?

If so, then the original pool was $262,045.33. Kind of a weird number.

Anyways, the point of my post was that there was a small number of winning tickets. When you have a small number, the variance of the payout is huge. One more person who has the winning combination changes the payout by hundreds of dollars. It can go the opposite way as well.

Wow...a horse can rear up, sit down and be in the hands of the starter the entire time. Come on man, this has gone too far. A lot of weird things happened in this race, but in the end, you lost, I lost, and a whole bunch of other people lost. I used the 6 and 7, but never looked at the 3 until the race was over. I was not a big fan of the 2, but I thought he'd be around for at least 3rd. As far as the payouts, this happens all the time. How come people don't say much when the exacta/triple/super comes out a bit higher than the Win/Place parlay?

Andy did an excellent job of explaining all of this and Handicappy gave us his take. It's time to move on and get ready for today's card.

where in any of my posts do i mention a credibility issue, go back and look at the posts and show me where i am questioning his credibiliy

so if people have different political views than you, you want them to lose?:zz: :rolleyes:

absolutely

i watched the reply today

what befuddles me even more is what dominguez does

a speed horse goes to dead last , and then circles the whole field going 5W ,

then when castro goes by him in the lane , ramon then goes to the whip after he is already gone , then eases up on the horse when he relaizes he can't win , i would guess it had to be his worst ride of the day

didn't find the post but I know I read one by you that said something like... he works for NYRA so he has no cred.

you're not going to find it , cuse i never said he had no credibilty

you got the wrong guy buddy

andy is great , he works hard as anyone in the game, he has knowledge of the game far greater than most, but the fact remains he is a NYRA employee and any opinion he gives on here (on a nyra issue)brings an inherent conflict of interest

yeah, this is completely different then saying he has no credibility

:rolleyes:

and explain to me how my statement is not a fact.

explain to me how my statement calls him a liar or someone with no credibilty

What are you talking about (again), Dominguez's horse wasn't a speed horse. In 5 career starts he has never had the lead at the half mile pole.
What's the next conspiricy going to be? There was a guy by the starting gate in a white suit that distracted the two from going to the lead, caused the one's rein to break and the ten to sit in the gate?
Please get off the race already.

so he was supposed to be dead last in the 1st turn then go 5 wide on the bacstretch

maybe he wasn't supposed to be on the lead but he should have been just off the pace chasing and saving gound and on the rail at the least

oh boy

you blew off his answer because you said he had a conflict of interest, thus suggesting his answer was tainted due to the fact he is a nyra employee. but if you want to attempt to say that you weren't questioning his abilities to give an unbiased answer, while saying exactly that, hey-more power to you.

we all can have an opinion , me ,the guys in the otb , the guy from the ny post , andy , anyone

but explain to me how there is no conflict of interest with andy's opinion on any nyra issue? he going to get some calls/issues wrong , and going to get some right. being wrong on a issue doesn't make him a liar or someone with no credibility , you are now triyng to fit my words to how you want them to read

Personally I don't think it was a bad ride. The horse has proved that he could run from behind. I'm not sure if there was a bias yesterday, but the few races I saw it seemed like horses were coming from behind. Not to mention that you had the leading jock riding who has been on fire lately. I'm not saying that he can't give a bad ride, but he had that horse in a spot where he could have won the race. Also, check out his last race on the inner, he came from way out of it.
Forget about the trip, is it just possible that the horse was short for his first race in eight months. Or is he not allowed to be a race short because he was sent off at 3-5? :zz:
I just don't know what you are trying to prove. You have brought up about four issues from this race and have been way off base on all of them.

you're exactly right on that. but you chose to go further-rather than saying hey, we have a difference of opinion, you chose to bring up inherent conflicts-you chose to make it more than just someone giving their POV. and then we wonder why folks like andy disappear for weeks at a time. people ask them for guidance, and then give them grief when they give it.

claiming he has a conflict of interest implies that he couldn't agree with you because that would be frowned upon by the NYRA.

I know.. it all depends on what the menaing of is
is

:rolleyes:

obvious bet against at 3/5. good grief

what a maroon...

I know I know

it's all George Bush's fault

:zz: :wf

Why no refund on This Ones For Phil ?

... I didn't get the pace scenario I wanted ;)