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paisjpq 11-23-2008 08:46 PM

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
serious question: are the ethics in judging high level show horses better or worse than olympic ice skating?
i have no idea. i dated someone that showed arabian's here in socal years ago and she always felt connections were almost as important as the quality of the horse.

i'm always suspicious of a "sport" that requires supposed independent judging. i like finish lines.


bout the same i'd say.

sumitas 11-23-2008 10:46 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
no...but to be a DESIRABLE show jumper you have to be a WARMBLOOD.

Oh, like you I suppose . Hot blooded .

Actually, other then the first post I have made up the rest of the thread as a goof on you all . It's an internet deception . You got punked .

hi_im_god 11-23-2008 10:55 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Oh, like you I suppose . Hot blooded .

^
golden missile has nothing on this stud.

blackthroatedwind 11-23-2008 10:55 PM

Yeah, you got us, everyone here takes everything you say so seriously.

hi_im_god 11-23-2008 11:10 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Oh, like you I suppose . Hot blooded .

Actually, other then the first post I have made up the rest of the thread as a goof on you all . It's an internet deception . You got punked .

^
lol. you should do this more often.

because you completely had me. here i thought you were drunk or insane but it turns out you're actually a concept bad writers use to resolve crappy plot lines.

paisjpq 11-24-2008 05:51 AM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Oh, like you I suppose . Hot blooded .

Actually, other then the first post I have made up the rest of the thread as a goof on you all . It's an internet deception . You got punked .


I hardly got punked....I just got an opportunity to tell you the truth about your horses. Thanks.

Handicappy 11-24-2008 07:25 AM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Cassell isn't a rookie.

I hear they are trying to get Testaverde out of retirement. lol

Rudeboyelvis 11-24-2008 09:04 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I hardly got punked....I just got an opportunity to tell you the truth about your horses. Thanks.


OOOOOOOOOO

Danzig 11-24-2008 09:44 AM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
no...but to be a DESIRABLE show jumper you have to be a WARMBLOOD.

true...i can't remember the last time i saw a rider on a t'bred in any of the grand prix events, or in the olympics for that matter...a lot of selle francais, dutch warmbloods and the like.

philcski 11-24-2008 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
sumitas you are a bizarre person. and you are posting at a truly delusional level....but your bullsh*t is mildly amusing. I hope you don't believe a word you write....and realize that if your horse were to go to races I would wager that after about 4 starts in as many weeks trying to break his maiden in 5 claimers he would be on the first truck to the new holland sale...and frankly, good riddance. It would serve you right for being part of the overall problem...breeding sh*t to sh*t and hoping it turns into gold.

having said that, be sure to let us know what his name is so we can look for him at the world eq games in a couple of years...you might not have heard of it because it's being held in KENTUCKY.

oh, SNAP!!!!!!!!!!!! :tro: Fine work, ma'am.

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Originally Posted by hi_im_god
serious question: are the ethics in judging high level show horses better or worse than olympic ice skating?

i have no idea. i dated someone that showed arabian's here in socal years ago and she always felt connections were almost as important as the quality of the horse.

i'm always suspicious of a "sport" that requires supposed independent judging. i like finish lines.

VERY much so. I feel the same way about judging vs. finish lines.

Linny 11-24-2008 12:32 PM

In the horseshow world TB's are a dime a dozen. They used to dominate but the Warmblood breeds own it now. Since horses coming off the track can be had cheap, they often end up in "backyard" barns with families looking to have a horse on the cheap. As such they get poor training and usually scare the crap out of their 14yo girl owner within 6 months. They then end up being given away to an even worse place. I know this because for years I rode just this kind of horse. He was lovely, well bred and messed up. He'd attack you if you weren't paying attention and was very erratic. He'd been abused by a "breaker" after going to a kid who's parents were not willing to spend $3k on a well broke quarter horse. They saved $2k and got Grey off the track.

slotdirt 11-24-2008 01:44 PM

I'm not sure where to post this, but this mess seems as good a place as any.

Did anybody see that Tony Stewart donated $20k to an Indiana horse rescue organization called Friends of Ferdinand to save a bunch of horses from slaughter? Who doesn't love NASCAR?

Dr. Watson 11-24-2008 03:51 PM

I love Nascar fans and im a big, big, big one! Go Ricky Rudd Go baby!!! :D

Indian Charlie 11-24-2008 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Dr. Watson
I love Nascar fans and im a big, big, big one! Go Ricky Rudd Go baby!!! :D

Are you from Florida, or West Virginia?

Dr. Watson 11-24-2008 04:08 PM

I have family that lives in West By God Virginia!! :D

sumitas 11-24-2008 04:51 PM

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Originally Posted by Linny
In the horseshow world TB's are a dime a dozen. They used to dominate but the Warmblood breeds own it now. Since horses coming off the track can be had cheap, they often end up in "backyard" barns with families looking to have a horse on the cheap. As such they get poor training and usually scare the crap out of their 14yo girl owner within 6 months. They then end up being given away to an even worse place. I know this because for years I rode just this kind of horse. He was lovely, well bred and messed up. He'd attack you if you weren't paying attention and was very erratic. He'd been abused by a "breaker" after going to a kid who's parents were not willing to spend $3k on a well broke quarter horse. They saved $2k and got Grey off the track.

Geesh, not another sickly inbred juice freak from Ky . These thoroughbreds have been so juiced up for decades I don't think anyone with 1/2 a brain can really believe those Ky pedigrees amount to a hill of beans .

sumitas 11-24-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by paisjpq
I hardly got punked....I just got an opportunity to tell you the truth about your horses. Thanks.

You must not have seen the pics of my big hunk of horse . Or you need your eyes checked . He has all the tools for the race track, or show . That's why he was never in a sales ring . Not any one deserves him . He can only go to the right stable .

blackthroatedwind 11-24-2008 05:05 PM

Hey Sumitas, want to have a handicapping contest?

Kasept 11-24-2008 05:11 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Hey Sumitas, want to have a handicapping contest?

iiiOOOOOOOOOOO!!!

sumitas 11-24-2008 05:14 PM

You're on . After I get the past performances of this year's grand prix events .

FYI, my yearling is from the immediate family of NY star Be Bullish . And we all know what he can do . Ever onward !

AeWingnut 11-24-2008 05:23 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
You're on . After I get the past performances of this year's grand prix events .

FYI, my yearling is from the immediate family of NY star Be Bullish . And we all know what he can do . Ever onward !


What? American racing isn't good enough for ya

Danzig 11-24-2008 05:43 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Hey Sumitas, want to have a handicapping contest?


:tro: :tro:

Linny 11-24-2008 08:20 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
Geesh, not another sickly inbred juice freak from Ky . These thoroughbreds have been so juiced up for decades I don't think anyone with 1/2 a brain can really believe those Ky pedigrees amount to a hill of beans .

This particular horse was a NY bred. He'd run well too. I see it happen all the time because in addition to working in racing, I ride hunters and jumpers. I showed alot on the circuit "back in the day" and have seen the tide turn against TB's. I know alot (hundreds) of TB's who came off the track and went to homes that were not prepared to deal with a track trained horse. It's a no win situation.
In eventing they still have a place. In the hunters and jumpers, they are rare and the ones that are out there are rarely well trained or managed because since they can be bought cheap, they tend to go to cheap owners who use "modest" trainers. It doesn't matter where they come from. I know people who breed TB's specifically for sport. They have hunter and jumper pedigrees, they've never been trained to race etc. Raised just like warmbloods and yet they are alot less money to buy because of the stigma of the TB.

Dr. Watson 11-25-2008 05:37 AM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
You must not have seen the pics of my big hunk of horse . Or you need your eyes checked . He has all the tools for the race track, or show . That's why he was never in a sales ring . Not any one deserves him . He can only go to the right stable .

I want to see him!!! can you please post a picture!?!? :D

sumitas 11-26-2008 01:59 PM

http://www.freewebs.com/berndo/50700019%20(3).JPG He's 2 mo older now and he's quite dark (he was in the sun this summer, hence his lighter brown dapples) and still growing . :D Oh, and he really walks nice . His hooves don't touch and he places his rear hooves where his front ones were . Nice thoughtful personality . He's friendly and curious but firm . Once he finds out what's up he goes about his business .
We'll have him broke soon . The equestrian thingy, fughedaboudit . I'm not much for champagne anyway .

Dr. Watson 11-26-2008 03:45 PM

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Originally Posted by sumitas
I'm not much for champagne anyway .

I don't know about the Champagne but he sure looks like the early future book favorite for the Sanford Stakes!!! :$: :$:

:D


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