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nebrady 09-15-2008 01:05 PM

Cassel did fine.
 
Sounds like more crying from jets fans. Really who cares if moss didn't do well. The pats won and thats all that matters. All who thought they were done better wake up. This is a team that plays through adversity and they are talented. Quit crying jets fans you lost get over it. Oh wait just get use to it, you should be by now! As for reavis, moss burned his ass. If pass wasn't underthrown, its a touchdown. Everything is fine in patriot land!

The Indomitable DrugS 09-15-2008 01:17 PM

With a shut down corner like "Ruger Relle Revis" - the Jets are going to make a strong run at drafting in the top 10 again.

nebrady 09-15-2008 01:23 PM

Bottom line jets still suck!
 
I agree and the jets still suck. As for you bills fans enjoy your 2 and 0 for now. We will beat you like we always do.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-15-2008 01:27 PM

The Bills are pretty damn good....at least from looking at the highlights and box scores - that's my impression.

SniperSB23 09-15-2008 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
The Bills are pretty damn good....at least from looking at the highlights and box scores - that's my impression.

Good but not quite pretty damn good. Lucking into Seattle without their top two receivers and then Jacksonville without their starting center and both starting guards was a nice way to start, especially with three very winnable games coming up and the potential of a 5-0 start. The defense is good now with the players returning from injuries and the adding physicality from Stroud and Mitchell. Offense is ok but Edwards has not shown the ability to throw the ball well in cold weather and when the weather turns they will desperately need Hardy to step up and become a bigtime possession receiver so they aren't counting on the mighty midgets in the snow again. And of course the great special teams make it so they have a chance in any game. The good news is I don't think anyone can qualify as pretty damn good right now so just being good might be enough this year. Getting all four west coast teams making the trip to Buffalo will help while the Patriots have to make the trip to the west coast to face all of those teams.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-15-2008 01:49 PM

Some real fat dude I see from time to time at a wigger strip club here told me the Bills would be a playoff team this year.

He's supposed to be the best football handicapper in the area.

SniperSB23 09-15-2008 01:57 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Some real fat dude I see from time to time at a wigger strip club here told me the Bills would be a playoff team this year.

He's supposed to be the best football handicapper in the area.

In that case I'd better go get in line for playoff tickets.

ateamstupid 09-15-2008 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
With a shut down corner like "Ruger Relle Revis" - the Jets are going to make a strong run at drafting in the top 10 again.

:D you're mad.

You're the one who tries to make everything about the lazy love of your life, and then when he doesn't do anything, you act like it's all about the Patriots and the Jets. I know the Jets got outplayed, but this thread was yet another masturbation session about Moss and how he'll be fine with Cassel. He was completely neutralized, which is why I came in to comment, and it isn't a one-time thing. Revis pretty much shut him down last season too.

ateamstupid 09-15-2008 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by nebrady
Everything is fine in patriot land!

Right, keep telling yourself that. Cassel sucks and you know it. We put on a total clinic of how not to play special teams, you DOMINATED the field position game, you got call after call after call and it was still a close game. Frankly, I didn't think either team looked very good, which is why I'd be worried about Buffalo.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 03:33 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Revis pretty much shut him down last season too.


He did?

Explain!

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 03:36 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Cassel sucks and you know it.

No quarterback in a Randy Moss offense sucks.

Impossible.

You do realize Cassel has always been regarded as an inaccurate passer when he's not warming benches - he was 3-for-11 in his final high school start - and only completed about 54 percent of his passes this preseason on an offense that stalled. He barely won his job as the backup.

Yet, he's over 70% so far this year.

GBBob 09-17-2008 03:38 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Duante would have tried to force the ball - and would have fumbled away about two of the sacks.

Tarvais Jackson is a much better qb than Culpepper ever was.

Jackson just benched for Gus Frerotte

meant as an fyi, not doing the comparison thing

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 03:54 PM

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Originally Posted by GBBob
Gus Frerotte

Now there is an all-time great QB!!!!

Duante got hurt in the 3rd week of the 2003 season. Gus Frerotte came in with the game tied and won the game by 10.

Frerotte's first start came next week against the 49ers.

The Vikings won 35-7

Gus went 16-for-21 with 267 passing yards 4 TD's and 0 INT's.

Moss had 8 catches for 172 yards and 3 TD's - Terrell Owens had 5 catches for 55 yards 0 TD's and tore into his offensive coordinator on the sideline.

Gus was named the NFC offensive player of the week.

Start #2 for Gus - the Vikings beat the Falcons 39-26. Gus throws 2 TD's to Moss.

That was it for the Gus Frerotte show. He throw 5 TD passes to Moss in his only two Viking Starts - the offense averaged 37 points - they handily won both games - and back to the bench so Duante could lead them to 7 losses in the final 11 weeks of the season and they missed the playoffs.

Jeff George made the pro bowl, won a playoff game, and had that Viking offense going like a machine - Gus Frerotte looked like Dan Marino in his prime - and all Duante could do is put up huge stats but lose close game shootout after close game shootout with his head.

Matt Cassel is a better QB right now than Duante ever was.

Coach Pants 09-17-2008 04:21 PM

Culpepper might be a Patriot in a few weeks. I hope so. Muhehehe

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 04:29 PM

Impossible that the Pats touch him.

He threw Moss under the bus in Minnesota - and because of fantasy football and Minny's swiss cheese defense - like everyone actually thought he was a great qb.

Erick Kresser was a better qb.

Coach Pants 09-17-2008 04:36 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
Impossible that the Pats touch him.

He threw Moss under the bus in Minnesota - and because of fantasy football and Minny's swiss cheese defense - like everyone actually thought he was a great qb.

Erick Kresser was a better qb.

Belichick hasn't ruled him out and iirc Moss called him in the offseason to see if he would like to finish what they started in Minnesota with another team.

Even Simon and Garfunkel got back together.

dalakhani 09-17-2008 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Belichick hasn't ruled him out and iirc Moss called him in the offseason to see if he would like to finish what they started in Minnesota with another team.

Even Simon and Garfunkel got back together.

http://sports.espn.go.com/nfl/news/story?id=3273447

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 04:49 PM

With the defense and running game Minny magically has now - Moss on the Vikes would probably win the Super Bowl with Tavaris and surely would win it with Gus.

dalakhani 09-17-2008 04:55 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
With the defense and running game Minny magically has now - Moss on the Vikes would probably win the Super Bowl with Tavaris and surely would win it with Gus.


Interesting. A few years ago, before he went to NE, i was thinking what it would be like if Moss went to Atlanta and played with Vick. Can you imagine that offense? It would have been illegal and impossible to stop.

Mortimer 09-17-2008 05:02 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Interesting. A few years ago, before he went to NE, i was thinking what it would be like if Moss went to Atlanta and played with Vick. Can you imagine that offense? It would have been illegal and impossible to stop.


^^^^^ Beyond stupid.






Great idea for a late night radio program broadcast from Area 51.

dalakhani 09-17-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
^^^^^ Beyond stupid.






Great idea for a late night radio program broadcast from Area 51.

I disagree mort. Back then they had duckett and also the tight end crumpler.

With that much speed (vick and moss) and that much size, its not like you could cheat on anybody. A defense would have to line up at least nickel almost every down to deal with the outside speed. Want to roll coverage to moss? Okay, but that means one less guy to come after Vick. Want to cheat on Vick and leave Moss single covered deep? And beyond that, are you really going to cover Crumpler over the middle with a backer? And if you go dime, duckett would run right down your throat.

Mortimer 09-17-2008 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
No quarterback in a Randy Moss offense sucks.

Impossible.

You do realize Cassel has always been regarded as an inaccurate passer when he's not warming benches - he was 3-for-11 in his final high school start - and only completed about 54 percent of his passes this preseason on an offense that stalled. He barely won his job as the backup.

Yet, he's over 70% so far this year.


WRONG as per usual.

Mortimer 09-17-2008 05:11 PM

Vick was one of THE worst qb's in the NFL during his time.Maybe the worst.

Moss would have made no difference...in fact Vick may well have been worse.

Look at his ratings.......if you didn't look at him and know already.

Coach Pants 09-17-2008 05:12 PM

Mobile quarterbacks suck.

alysheba4 09-17-2008 05:14 PM

randy moss recently had the idea to sell his urine as a canned beverage.....we know this beverage as red bull.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 05:17 PM

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Originally Posted by dalakhani
Interesting. A few years ago, before he went to NE, i was thinking what it would be like if Moss went to Atlanta and played with Vick. Can you imagine that offense? It would have been illegal and impossible to stop.

If Moss gets a free release - Tom Brady is the best QB he's ever had.

Both of them read defenses the same way - and many times when Moss broke off the route he was supposed to run - Brady would get him the ball quickly and with accuracy and almost never would miss him.

If Moss gets jammed well at the line and has a safety rolling to him - Brady is not a good qb for him.

The latter scenerio happened in the playoffs last year - and the former scenerio happened a lot in the first 9 or 10 games when the Pats were scoring 40 a game and torching everyone.

If you jam Moss well at the line - and have a safety over the top - Jeff Geroge is the only qb he's had who would stick with him, and still make big plays time and again.

alysheba4 09-17-2008 05:19 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
If Moss gets a free release - Tom Brady is the best QB he's ever had.

Both of them read defenses the same way - and many times when Moss broke off the route he was supposed to run - Brady would get him the ball quickly and with accuracy and almost never would miss him.

If Moss gets jammed well at the line and has a safety rolling to him - Brady is not a good qb for him.

The latter scenerio happened in the playoffs last year - and the former scenerio happened a lot in the first 9 or 10 games when the Pats were scoring 40 a game and torching everyone.

If you jam Moss well at the line - and have a safety over the top - Jeff Geroge is the only qb he's had who would stick with him, and still make big plays time and again.

......sure, but randy moss is more certain than death or taxes.

Antitrust32 09-17-2008 05:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Mobile quarterbacks suck.

Except for mobile eagles qb's!! :{>: Randall

alysheba4 09-17-2008 05:24 PM

steve young, elway and tarkington were not too shabby;)

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
WRONG as per usual.

What is wrong?

Just because Ohio State got plunger raped by USC doesn't mean you have to pretend to know as much as I do about football.

And the extent that I follow pro football is to watch as many Ravens and Moss games as a I can.

The extent that I follow college football is to read scout reports on new recruits and watch maybe 4 games a year.

Mortimer 09-17-2008 06:35 PM

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Originally Posted by The Indomitable DrugS
What is wrong?

Just because Ohio State got plunger raped by USC doesn't mean you have to pretend to know as much as I do about football.

And the extent that I follow pro football is to watch as many Ravens and Moss games as a I can.

The extent that I follow college football is to read scout reports on new recruits and watch maybe 4 games a year.


I'm going to say it this way:


Moss needed the Pats a LOT more than they needed him.

After all ...they had won 2 very recent NFL titles without him...they've yet to win one with him.

Also...you just made the ALL NIMROD team by purporting to sniff that you know more about football than I do without having any idea about how much I do know about football.


It's also known as Costanza Complex.



I KNOW why Ohio State got bull dozed; I knew it would happen before it happened.


Here's something else for you....USC is not a great team....real good ,but not great.


Don't put too much on them for the big dance this year.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 06:59 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
Also...you just made the ALL NIMROD team by purporting to sniff that you know more about football than I do without having any idea about how much I do know about football.

Randy Moss is all there is to football. It's borderline unwatchable without him.

If you know him - you know football. You don't know him.

It's Sun Tzu-esque.

Mortimer 09-17-2008 07:04 PM

OK ...knowledge contest over.

That was a real dumb statement.


A receiver is about the last thing you look for when putting a team together.The Raiders don't know that ,either.

ninetoone 09-17-2008 07:15 PM

Moss missed the championship run of the Pats & now he'll likely never get one...kinda like when Mussina went to the Yankees.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 07:18 PM

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Originally Posted by Mortimer
A receiver is about the last thing you look for when putting a team together.The Raiders don't know that ,either.

15-0 with 15 blowout wins the first of his two years for the Herd.

15-1 and a NFL record for points scored his 1st year with the Vikes

16-0 and a NFL record for points scored his 1st year with the Pats.

And you want to make it about the Raiders? He shined individually in each of his first 4 games with the Raiders and quit on them because their O-line couldn't hold blocks for more than 0.2 seconds. That and he wasn't healthy

Might as well as get your team a high draft pick if they thoroughly suck that bad.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 07:19 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
Moss missed the championship run of the Pats & now he'll likely never get one...kinda like when Mussina went to the Yankees.

He will win one this year with Matt Cassel.

ninetoone 09-17-2008 07:20 PM

I wouldn't count on it.

The Indomitable DrugS 09-17-2008 07:23 PM

Why?

I got 15/1 on them in an exchange market last week - they should cash it now for me.

Coach Pants 09-17-2008 07:25 PM

Wow.

ateamstupid 09-17-2008 07:38 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
Wow.

My thoughts exactly.


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