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Cannon Shell 06-11-2008 03:46 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62
"He also said that he will resume the horse's regular regiment of Winstrol injections on Sunday, despite claiming that Big Brown does not need steroids.
Dutrow has maintained that Big Brown was properly prepared for the race, dismissing speculation that the horse underperformed because he had been taken off steroids in May.

"He doesn't need any drugs; the Winstrol had nothing to do with it,"

Dutrow said. "I've never even had a vet look at this horse."


Dutrow like all the Experts on ATR have said the lack of Winstrol had nothing to do with his performance... Then why put him back on his cycle ?

Maybe because he is rundown after 3 races in 5 weeks after having 3 races in 8 months? You know the actual legitimate use for the stuff?

asudevil 06-11-2008 04:33 PM

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Originally Posted by stevepopyak

"Hey Kent, sorry I was an A-hole babe. You ride real good. Let's move on and get ready for the Travers, babe."

witchdoctor 06-11-2008 05:55 PM

Here is the real reason BB didn't run well.

http://www.sfgate.com/cgi-bin/articl...ASMUSSENBR.DTL

ELA 06-11-2008 06:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Maybe because he is rundown after 3 races in 5 weeks after having 3 races in 8 months? You know the actual legitimate use for the stuff?

This makes perfect sense. Every vet, trainer, qualified opinion, etc. -- even Billy Tuner's comments, aside from his opinion on the jock pulling the horse up -- speak to this being the understandable reasoning. This coupled with the training, or lack thereof, and everything else, seems to have much more to do with the outcome and result.

Putting the horse "back on" the treatment/cycle doesn't speak to "need" -- it speaks to the legitimate uses. Taking him off was a judgement call and that was Dutrow's call to make. Nobody has been around this horse, knows this horse, understands this horse, etc. like Dutrow -- thus his call is the most applicable. The result was not contingent exclusively on taking the horse of the treatment from what I gather.

Eric

2Hot4TV 06-11-2008 08:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
He's quite the confused individual.

Does that mean he gay? Not thats confused.

ELA 06-11-2008 08:33 PM

http://tcm.bloodhorse.com/article/45683.htm

Dutrow and Desormeaux meet, mend fences -- from The BH.

Eric

Swale84 06-11-2008 08:48 PM

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Originally Posted by ELA
Steve -- on a related note, having John Nerud on the show was fantastic. As you know, I truly enjoy sitting around with Angel Cordero or Jorge Velasquez, maybe the Chief, whoever might be around, and listening to their stories about the history of this game.

I remember watching races and then hearing someone like Georgie talk about what was going through his mind or what he was looking to do -- it's just incredible.

Could you imagine sitting with John Nerud and talking about training, breeding and just the sport in general?

Eric

John Nerud is always great when he is on the show. Unbelievable wealth of knowledge-Tartan surface, being around when NYRA passed on OTB, great trainer and horseman

Any chance of Steve Haskin writing a book with/about Nerud?

CSC 06-11-2008 08:49 PM

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Originally Posted by sdjcom
My statements were in my post 8 days before race. You can go back and read it if you so choose. My comments were not 20/20 hindsight

I went back to that thread out of courtesy to read what you said, you make some bold points and yes you were correct on many. Everyone is entitled to an opinion, it is America afterall but even knowing what we know now 20/20 hindsight. I would have still ran Big Brown, you can't achieve anything if you don't atleast try.

Lindbergh was quoted as saying "What kind of man would live where there is no danger? I don't believe in taking foolish chances. But nothing can be accomplished by not taking a chance at all."


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