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ateamstupid 02-22-2008 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
You know, there was once a time where horses prepped in easy spots and every race wasn't a competitive stake race. There's no reason to seek out a difficult spot at this point. He will have plenty of those opportunities down the road.

There was once a time? That sounds like today to me.

Danzig 02-22-2008 09:13 PM

war pass has the necessary earnings....he can build a good foundation without going after other graded races. better to find the right race conditions, rather than chasing a purse.

XIIPointStables 02-22-2008 10:13 PM

Looking forward to seeing him run this year. Was so fast last year in the two races I was lucky enough to see him live at Toga. Of course I bet against both times. I think he faced Slew's Tiznow in his maiden.

Fun to see if he can carry the speed to the classic distances.

Smooth Operator 02-23-2008 08:08 PM

Should be a nice long workout for the champ ... and something that should set him up nicely for the Tampa contest.

Travis Stone 02-23-2008 11:25 PM

I don't want to jinx anything, but he could probably run backward and beat this group.

letswastemoney 02-23-2008 11:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Travis Stone
I don't want to jinx anything, but he could probably run backward and beat this group.

Lightning could strike War Pass, and he'd get up and still win :)

CSC 02-24-2008 10:45 AM

I am interested in how War Pass will run today. Obviously he was a brilliant 2 yr old this will be my first look at him as a 3 yr old, especially want to see if he has filled out as he has gotten a winter under him. Some horses do not make the jump so easily from 2 to 3 so from that standpoint I am very curious to see how he looks in the post parade.

westcoastinvader 02-24-2008 11:19 AM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
Lightning could strike War Pass, and he'd get up and still win :)

This may already be buried in this thread or the selections, but I note the "changes" on the Gulfstream Park card today list "No Show Wagering" on the War Pass race.

FWIW :)

Dunbar 02-24-2008 03:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Cannon Shell
Show bet

Gulfstream chickens out after the scratch of the #4. No show betting.

--Dunbar

Danzig 02-24-2008 04:44 PM

i saw a few mins ago that two horses are 99-1.

i laughed.

Coach Pants 02-24-2008 04:48 PM

War Pass by 8

Hickory Hill Hoff 02-24-2008 04:52 PM

much the best

letswastemoney 02-24-2008 04:52 PM

How did Dylan's Choice do?

pmacdaddy 02-24-2008 04:52 PM

It's nice to be able to watch a horse like that work out on TV.

Danzig 02-24-2008 04:53 PM

a paid workout. he looked good.

but then, we all knew he would vs that group.

PSH 02-24-2008 04:53 PM

War Pass
 
nothing more than a public workout for the champ

Coach Pants 02-24-2008 04:54 PM

Still top dog.

the_fat_man 02-24-2008 04:56 PM

Why is it so hard to crack (or even get close to) 23 seconds for the QTR going a mile at GP? You'd think they were going 2 turns by the fractions that have been conistently posted this meet.

TitanSooner 02-24-2008 05:00 PM

I'm no expert (obviously), and I know he ran against rats.. but just watching that horse move I had to ask myself "What other 3 year old is going to beat him?"

ninetoone 02-24-2008 05:01 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner
I'm no expert (obviously), and I know he ran against rats.. but just watching that horse move I had to ask myself "What other 3 year old is going to beat him?"


Manba. Just kidding.

Danzig 02-24-2008 05:04 PM

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miraja2 02-24-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by TitanSooner
I'm no expert (obviously), and I know he ran against rats.. but just watching that horse move I had to ask myself "What other 3 year old is going to beat him?"

In a one-turn mile like this race I think it is pretty clear that there is no other 3yo that could beat him right now in a fairly run race.
What happens at 9f and beyond is still a question, but I wouldn't bet against him right now.

Danzig 02-24-2008 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by ninetoone
Manba. Just kidding.

maybe to the gate....:D

Hickory Hill Hoff 02-24-2008 05:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Dunbar
Gulfstream chickens out after the scratch of the #4. No show betting.

--Dunbar

Played a 5/3/all/all "dime" super for sixty cents for the heck of it......got back fifty eight cents :D .....you can hit a "super" & lose! :eek:

miraja2 02-24-2008 05:25 PM

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Originally Posted by letswastemoney
How did Dylan's Choice do?

If he had a better post position he would have won easily.
I think the outside post cost him about 32-34 lengths, and he only lost by 29.

cmorioles 02-24-2008 07:34 PM

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Originally Posted by the_fat_man
Why is it so hard to crack (or even get close to) 23 seconds for the QTR going a mile at GP? You'd think they were going 2 turns by the fractions that have been conistently posted this meet.

Very little run up at the back of the chute.

ateamstupid 02-24-2008 08:55 PM

Useless race to analyze. I don't think he gets 10 panels.

Cajungator26 02-24-2008 08:56 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Useless race to analyze. I don't think he gets 10 panels.

Me either. At the risk of being ridiculed (LOL), he looked pretty fragile too.

philcski 02-24-2008 09:11 PM

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Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Useless race to analyze. I don't think he gets 10 panels.

Maybe not, but man is he a nice horse. He just essentially WORKED a mile faster than most 3YO stakes are being run. The more Derby preps I see, the more I think he may be able to hang on the 10F. This is NOT the 2007 class by any means.

Payson Dave 02-24-2008 09:13 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by ateamstupid
Useless race to analyze. I don't think he gets 10 panels.


the question is.....who looks like they can at this point?

Cajungator26 02-24-2008 09:15 PM

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Originally Posted by philcski
Maybe not, but man is he a nice horse. He just essentially WORKED a mile faster than most 3YO stakes are being run. The more Derby preps I see, the more I think he may be able to hang on the 10F. This is NOT the 2007 class by any means.

Have you seen how bad he wings that front left, Phil? I dunno... I'm a little concerned. Believe me, I'd like to see him go all the way in the Derby, but the longer he runs, the more he wings that leg out and I don't like that one bit.

Cajungator26 02-24-2008 09:17 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Payson Dave
the question is.....who looks like they can at this point?

Pyro? I'm not ready to toss Court Vision (slow as he may be) out yet either.

philcski 02-24-2008 09:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Have you seen how bad he wings that front left, Phil? I dunno... I'm a little concerned. Believe me, I'd like to see him go all the way in the Derby, but the longer he runs, the more he wings that leg out and I don't like that one bit.

I've seen him run live twice, once at Saratoga in his allowance win (which I thought he was the most impressive 2yo at SAR, wrote that here somewhere...) and at the BC. Never noticed the winging thing, interesting observation but plenty of really good horses have had funny running styles, no? Seattle Slew, for one, was all over the place with his front legs.

GPK 02-24-2008 09:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26
Have you seen how bad he wings that front left, Phil? I dunno... I'm a little concerned. Believe me, I'd like to see him go all the way in the Derby, but the longer he runs, the more he wings that leg out and I don't like that one bit.


^^^^cajungator....aka....MarylandBlackEyedSusansIn May

Cajungator26 02-24-2008 09:27 PM

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Originally Posted by GPK
^^^^cajungator....aka....FloridaOrangeBlossomsInMa y

:D

FTFY

Cajungator26 02-24-2008 09:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
:rolleyes:

:mad:

Coach Pants 02-24-2008 09:30 PM

I predicted a victory by 8 lengths. He won by 7.5. Obviously the horse is sore.

Cajungator26 02-24-2008 09:32 PM

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Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I predicted a victory by 8 lengths. He won by 7.5. Obviously the horse is sore.

Didn't say he was sore. :p

GPK 02-24-2008 09:32 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Coach Pants
I predicted a victory by 8 lengths. He won by 7.5. Obviously the horse is sore.


Probably wont even make the Derby....


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