hank who?

Godolphin was looking at him at Saratoga.

That must have been on their let's-write-a-list-of-who-not-to-buy day.

I'm afraid to say that Godolphin have bought MUCH worse than him........ why? who knows.

They have also bought horses like him and turned them into useless ones.

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Example For Scavs Hair Design........

Godophin was VERY close to buying him..Apparently one of the partners tried to negotiate up from their offer.

They certainly seemed very interested that morning at Saratoga...

Obviously my bad....I did not realize that they consulted with you on who they buy and who they don't...:rolleyes:

:D Well, the Teuf is an "iron horse"! :D

i thought they were still on strike.

Hank? Hank does not like the desert heat.

I hope Jeff Singer buys all of him and gives him over to his other trainer.

I hope his current trainer buys Singer out.... and gives him to her other trainer....

Yeah, I'm in charge of telling them which ones are the prettiest.

Now there is no reason to be bringing Ms Sander's appearance into this

And damn proud of it by the way

maybe sanders can take all of her winnings from all of her stable this year, and buy the horse....

but he may not go that cheap.

Maybe all you budding Charlie Whittinghams would be doing better in your second full year as a trainer. Remember Teuf cost a whole $9k as a yearling.

She can be a little "ambitious" with her placings.

There is ambitious and downright stupid. I'm sorry, but what can a horse possibly be getting out of being raced over it's head? She was darn lucky that Teuf came back the way he did after he 'hit the wall' in the Derby, other horses have never been the same.

She certainly is not the first trainer to put a horse in the Derby that didn't belong...You could argue that she's done a good job getting him back to win the Woody Stephens and place in the Carry Back after the Derby where many others have gone down the crapper.

what an understatement. take for example in the first race at Keeneland on Friday. She's running Furlong Baby, a horse that has run against straight maidens four times at CD, Bel, and Saratoga. The horse has never been a factor at any point in those races. the finish beaten lengths are 15, 20, 15, 28. So Friday she goes long against straight maidens at Keeneland? the result will be the same, a double digit defeat. i know nothing about training a horse, but you don't have to be a Charlie Whittingham to see that she continuously runs her horses in spots where they can't win.

I can't argue that the winning percentage is dreadful. I just think she gets beaten up more than the average trainer, especially one with as little experience as she has.

she has got some decent horses and has sent out 229 starters this year. its not like she is some start-up trainer working with a limited number of hand-me-downs.
her stats are called into question because they are not anywhere near average and it stands out. I don't consider that beating up on her its merely pointing out her record.
i see that she owns Furlong Baby so at least she answers only to herself for the performance. but if i'm an owner sending her horses you better believe i'd be asking some questions.

I happen to know that one of her "decent" horses is a horse that I couldn't give away as a weanling or as a yearling. He's managed to get a check in 5 of his 7 starts in open and NYB company and has been pretty close to some good horses. So from my frame of reference she does pretty well.

She has an ownership interest in Teuf as well. She has managed to make some money with some pretty low quality stock but caught lightning in a jar with Teuflesberg.

speaking of placements where the hell is naseem rauf?

it makes my handicapping a little easier thats for sure.

I saw the last race with juvi Sanoran Desert at Turfway. It was a speed biased surface but SD was only a few lengths off the leaders at the wire. I thought he ran well.

i drew a line right thru one of hers at arlington...once you figure that one for last, the super was almost easy. didn't pay much tho, i guess everyone has the toss the sanders angle down.

you must have a very liberal frame of reference.

Teuflesberg for sale?
 

http://apps.keeneland.com/sales/nov07/pdfs/590.pdf

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He's entered in the Phoenix at Keeneland on Saturday.....
an historic last start for D.T.'s favorite trainer???

i hope Tberg wins it. this $9k yearling is one of the most popular horses on this board.