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Exceller 06-28-2006 12:22 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Oh yeah! "Obsessive lunatic"...more name calling.
Give your insults a rest already, troll.


Yeah, I am the troll. My guys Esoteric Thinker will be trolling all over your NY Breds. Don't worry a got a piece of a California bred too. Is it my KY bred that bothers you or the fact that you are in the negative in the contest and I am in second place. LOL.

Why don't you go back to being Investigator Clouseau and solving the troll puzzle. I wished I had the time you did. Maybe you should find a hobby. :eek:

Exceller 06-28-2006 12:24 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Nah, not true. There will always be people who try to cheat. Doesn't change the fact you're still a stupid ****ing idiot.

I thought name calling was bad. Isn't that right Investigator Clouseau? LOL.

SentToStud 06-28-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
I thought name calling was bad. Isn't that right Investigator Clouseau? LOL.

you have a Racing Form today sonny?

Downthestretch55 06-28-2006 12:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
I thought name calling was bad. Isn't that right Investigator Clouseau? LOL.

You've got problems.
I came in 2nd to Pete Mugg in Magic's contest.

Get some help....and put down that bottle.

Exceller 06-28-2006 12:35 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
You've got problems.
I came in 2nd to Pete Mugg in Magic's contest.

Get some help....and put down that bottle.

Ok, Clouseau. I will put down the bottle if you take your pills.

Exceller 06-28-2006 12:38 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
you have a Racing Form today sonny?

I do. I am playing three horses today at Belmont.

Fidget in the 5th

Delta Sea in the 7th

Dr. Pleasure in the 8th

eurobounce 06-28-2006 12:40 PM

Who cares who uses steroids. It isn't a reporters responsibility to control steroids. It is Bud Selif's job to make sure baseball is free of steroids. Gammoms doesn't report on steroids because he doesn't care. What benefit does do to report a story about a team using steroids. If I had my way, steroids would be legal so we wouldn't have to hear about this garbage all the time.

Gammons makes no bones about being a Red Sox fan, and his reporting is fair and accurate. I love the trade rumors he has and all the leads. Now his knowledge of the game pales in comparison to Reynolds, Kruk and Morgan. But he isn't there for baseball startegy, he is there to report on rumors and try and report it as accurate as possible. I don't know how anyone can fault anyone for doing something they love.

Exceller 06-28-2006 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Who cares who uses steroids. It isn't a reporters responsibility to control steroids. It is Bud Selif's job to make sure baseball is free of steroids. Gammoms doesn't report on steroids because he doesn't care. What benefit does do to report a story about a team using steroids. If I had my way, steroids would be legal so we wouldn't have to hear about this garbage all the time.

Gammons makes no bones about being a Red Sox fan, and his reporting is fair and accurate. I love the trade rumors he has and all the leads. Now his knowledge of the game pales in comparison to Reynolds, Kruk and Morgan. But he isn't there for baseball startegy, he is there to report on rumors and try and report it as accurate as possible. I don't know how anyone can fault anyone for doing something they love.

He is a reporter. It is his job to report what he knows. Gammons looks the other way. That is what make him a go to guy for GM's and players. I will give you info if you make baseball look good. Fact is that Gammons is more of a salesman for baseball than a reporter. That guy knows what color underwear players are wearing, don't tell me he didn't know about steroids in the game.

eurobounce 06-28-2006 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
He is a reporter. It is his job to report what he knows. Gammons looks the other way. That is what make him a go to guy for GM's and players. I will give you info if you make baseball look good. Fact is that Gammons is more of a salesman for baseball than a reporter. That guy knows what color underwear players are wearing, don't tell me he didn't know about steroids in the game.

Being a contracted reporter he can choose what he wants to report and what he doesnt. He chooses to report the good side of baseball. There are plenty of other people who only look at the negative (Jay Mariotti) side of baseball. Again, he is an independent contractor--he can report on what he wants. He isnt obligated to report every story.

Exceller 06-28-2006 12:52 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Being a contracted reporter he can choose what he wants to report and what he doesnt. He chooses to report the good side of baseball. There are plenty of other people who only look at the negative (Jay Mariotti) side of baseball. Again, he is an independent contractor--he can report on what he wants. He isnt obligated to report every story.

Peter Gammons, a highly respected Major League Baseball journalist, serves as a studio analyst on ESPN's Baseball Tonight.

That is his bio from ESPN.

You are not a journalist if you are really just a salesman for baseball. I guess reporting on steroids went against the salesman job. He has a degree I believe in journalism from Chapel Hill. He should know better than to be a coverup man for baseball.

eurobounce 06-28-2006 12:57 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
Peter Gammons, a highly respected Major League Baseball journalist, serves as a studio analyst on ESPN's Baseball Tonight.

That is his bio from ESPN.

You are not a journalist if you are really just a salesman for baseball. I guess reporting on steroids went against the salesman job. He has a degree I believe in journalism from Chapel Hill. He should know better than to be a coverup man for baseball.

What does his bio have to do with anything? A journalist reports a story. That is exactly what he does. Just because he doesnt report what you want doesnt mean he is any less of a journalist.

SentToStud 06-28-2006 01:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
I do. I am playing three horses today at Belmont.

Fidget in the 5th

Delta Sea in the 7th

Dr. Pleasure in the 8th

Lol... Fidget... lol. Hasn't won a race in 2 years, burned $ at 9/5 and even money. Gonna get a 2nd flight trip. 7 yo mare gonna pass 3 or 4 of them on an off track? Lol, well at least you'll get 2-1 today.

Delta Sea ... well, he's the cheapest horse in the race, is moving up and probably has to pass all of them. Probably 5-1 today for his crack 4% trainer who brings him back in six days. Good luck.

Dr Pleasure... well you bought in on the front page article I guess. Figure 5/2 at most. Why do you like him? You admire how he stopped like a trained pig at 4/5 at Keeneland 2 months ago?

Downthestretch55 06-28-2006 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Lol... Fidget... lol. Hasn't won a race in 2 years, burned $ at 9/5 and even money. Gonna get a 2nd flight trip. 7 yo mare gonna pass 3 or 4 of them on an off track? Lol, well at least you'll get 2-1 today.

Delta Sea ... well, he's the cheapest horse in the race, is moving up and probably has to pass all of them. Probably 5-1 today for his crack 4% trainer who brings him back in six days. Good luck.

Dr Pleasure... well you bought in on the front page article I guess. Figure 5/2 at most. Why do you like him? You admire how he stopped like a trained pig at 4/5 at Keeneland 2 months ago?

LMFAO!!!
S2S, it's pretty obvious that this guy just loves to hit his typewriter keys while he's sucking on his bottle.
Watch out! He'll come back with lots of insults and names.
Know nothings like to do that.

more LMFAO!!!
Get ready S2S!

Exceller 06-28-2006 01:07 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Lol... Fidget... lol. Hasn't won a race in 2 years, burned $ at 9/5 and even money. Gonna get a 2nd flight trip. 7 yo mare gonna pass 3 or 4 of them on an off track? Lol, well at least you'll get 2-1 today.

Delta Sea ... well, he's the cheapest horse in the race, is moving up and probably has to pass all of them. Probably 5-1 today for his crack 4% trainer who brings him back in six days. Good luck.

Dr Pleasure... well you bought in on the front page article I guess. Figure 5/2 at most. Why do you like him? You admire how he stopped like a trained pig at 4/5 at Keeneland 2 months ago?

Where are your picks? Or do you just root against other people's picks? Love those type of guys.

SentToStud 06-28-2006 01:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
Where are your picks? Or do you just root against other people's picks? Love those type of guys.

do me a favor son.... i'm real busy... do you know how this race came?

06/28/06 Churchill Downs 3 c $30.00 WIN 6 $30.00 $0.00 $0.00

Exceller 06-28-2006 01:26 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
do me a favor son.... i'm real busy... do you know how this race came?

06/28/06 Churchill Downs 3 c $30.00 WIN 6 $30.00 $0.00 $0.00

Sure. Where was the pick before the race. If I had a dollar for every winner people had after the race I would be retired. Put up or shut up. The entire day is left and I see ZERO picks from you. Typical guy that is full of it.

Crown@club 06-28-2006 01:30 PM

Let's see story broke out on the 21st by Eric Wilbur in ESPN the Magazine. Still hasn't become big news yet. Still dealing with Jason Grimsley. Once it becomes Big News, I'm sure Gammons will make comments about it. Wait a minute he's in ICU.

The conspiracy theorist say he has known about it forever. No one has made a big deal about it until 2002. He is doing his job! He is not holding back. He already said when McGwire becomes eligible for the HoF. McGwire does not have a vote from him.

By the way
Who killed Kennedy?
What happened at area 51?
Are the Kennedy's cursed?
Are the Cubs cursed?

Downthestretch55 06-28-2006 01:31 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
Sure. Where was the pick before the race. If I had a dollar for every winner people had after the race I would be retired. Put up or shut up. The entire day is left and I see ZERO picks from you. Typical guy that is full of it.

Race 8- #7 Santa's Gold
Race 9- #2 Magic Momentum

Hate to see a drunk cry over his lost tickets.

eurobounce 06-28-2006 01:34 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Race 8- #7 Santa's Gold
Race 9- #2 Magic Momentum

Hate to see a drunk cry over his lost tickets.

Wait, I want to take a couple of stabs

Race 5 - Jolies Leader
Race 6 - no one
Race 7 - Delta Sea
Race 8 - Organizer

Exceller 06-28-2006 01:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Crown@club
Let's see story broke out on the 21st by Eric Wilbur in ESPN the Magazine. Still hasn't become big news yet. Still dealing with Jason Grimsley. Once it becomes Big News, I'm sure Gammons will make comments about it. Wait a minute he's in ICU.

The conspiracy theorist say he has known about it forever. No one has made a big deal about it until 2002. He is doing his job! He is not holding back. He already said when McGwire becomes eligible for the HoF. McGwire does not have a vote from him.

By the way
Who killed Kennedy?
What happened at area 51?
Are the Kennedy's cursed?
Are the Cubs cursed?

Good questions. DTS has been working on these questions for years. :eek:

Exceller 06-28-2006 01:37 PM

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Originally Posted by eurobounce
Wait, I want to take a couple of stabs

Race 5 - Jolies Leader
Race 6 - no one
Race 7 - Delta Sea
Race 8 - Organizer

I too like Delta Sea.

I am still waiting for STS's picks. I bet we will get them 10 minutes after the race goes off. :eek:

eurobounce 06-28-2006 01:41 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
I too like Delta Sea.

I am still waiting for STS's picks. I bet we will get them 10 minutes after the race goes off. :eek:

I know Delta Sea is cheap and the trainer is having a hard time but I think this horse gets it done today. The field isnt all that good, so it is now or never for Delta Sea.

SentToStud 06-28-2006 01:43 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
Sure. Where was the pick before the race. If I had a dollar for every winner people had after the race I would be retired. Put up or shut up. The entire day is left and I see ZERO picks from you. Typical guy that is full of it.

wait son, it's in...

06/28/06 Churchill Downs 3 c $30.00 WIN 6 $30.00 $0.00 $798.00

well, i'm a bit over even for the day, son. Here's my next selection for you ... I'm looking to lay odds up to 4-1 on Fidget through betfair. If I win that, I'll figure today is not your day and lay odds on your other two selections. LOL. Also in Belmont's 8th I have Santa's Gold h/u vs Perrycarditus. so, GFY and stay in school.

Downthestretch55 06-28-2006 01:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
Good questions. DTS has been working on these questions for years. :eek:

Yeah right!!
S2S said it right. More words that you try to put in my mouth...
****ing idiot.

Exceller 06-28-2006 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
wait son, it's in...

06/28/06 Churchill Downs 3 c $30.00 WIN 6 $30.00 $0.00 $798.00

well, i'm a bit over even for the day, son. Here's my next selection for you ... I'm looking to lay odds up to 4-1 on Fidget through betfair. If I win that, I'll figure today is not your day and lay odds on your other two selections. LOL. Also in Belmont's 8th I have Santa's Gold h/u vs Perrycarditus. so, GFY and stay in school.

I have 40W60P on Fidget.

SentToStud 06-28-2006 02:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
I have 40W60P on Fidget.

I have 50w on Prosperous Queen. Also exb 2/3567

And what gives with the place wagering? good grief, another one of thse people.

Exceller 06-28-2006 02:18 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
I have 50w on Prosperous Queen. Also exb 2/3567

And what gives with the place wagering? good grief, another one of thse people.

I bet to place when I am betting against a favorite sometimes. I have put $400 aside for three bets today. The first $100 didn't go well, but my $200W bet is in the 8th race today. I probably will bet $40W60P on my pick in race 7 too.

I feel your pain though. 11-1 was a good pick. Maybe you should have bet him to place. Us "people". :eek:

SentToStud 06-28-2006 02:19 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
I have 40W60P on Fidget.

Sorry, son. And why no props from you for me? Strong 2nd for me at 11-1. $117 ex. Common son. "and here comes Fidget on the outside!" hey, he made the super for someone!

SentToStud 06-28-2006 02:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
I bet to place when I am betting against a favorite sometimes. I have put $400 aside for three bets today. The first $100 didn't go well, but my $200W bet is in the 8th race today. I probably will bet $40W60P on my pick in race 7 too.

I feel your pain though. 11-1 was a good pick. Maybe you should have bet him to place. Us "people". :eek:

no son, i don't bet to place, i use ex boxes. "exb" = ex box, son. so, it was ok. No betfair action... not attractive.

good luck. no offense, but i'll be down against Dr P.

Exceller 06-28-2006 02:23 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
Sorry, son. And why no props from you for me? Strong 2nd for me at 11-1. $117 ex. Common son. "and here comes Fidget on the outside!" hey, he made the super for someone!

It is a good pick, but I can already tell you bet every race, which means you lose money. I will stick with my 3 picks and push along with my usual break even weeks. Gambling and my horsees are my entertainment, my business is where I make my money. Much easier way to make a good living.

SentToStud 06-28-2006 02:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
It is a good pick, but I can already tell you bet every race, which means you lose money. I will stick with my 3 picks and push along with my usual break even weeks. Gambling and my horsees are my entertainment, my business is where I make my money. Much easier way to make a good living.

no son, where you get off saying that? how TF do you know what I do or how I bet? Thanks for admitting your problem. There's nothing wrong about being dead money.

eurobounce 06-28-2006 02:28 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
I have 50w on Prosperous Queen. Also exb 2/3567

And what gives with the place wagering? good grief, another one of thse people.

To bad that $50 wasnt to place on Prosperous Queen.

Downthestretch55 06-28-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
It is a good pick, but I can already tell you bet every race, which means you lose money. I will stick with my 3 picks and push along with my usual break even weeks. Gambling and my horsees are my entertainment, my business is where I make my money. Much easier way to make a good living.

That shine box makes you a good living? LMFAO!!!!!!
You need to get a lawn mower so you can move up.
Maybe you should invest in a weed whacker while you're at it.

Exceller 06-28-2006 02:29 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
no son, where you get off saying that? how TF do you know what I do or how I bet? Thanks for admitting your problem. There's nothing wrong about being dead money.


Are you a professional gambler? I just think it is odd that I picked a few races out of all the races in america, and you also were betting the race. Now it is possible, but considering you made you pick at post time I am going to guess you bet every race or you just throw up picks and don't really bet them. Who knows, maybe it was a coincidence. Doubt it though.

Exceller 06-28-2006 02:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
That shine box makes you a good living? LMFAO!!!!!!
You need to get a lawn mower so you can move up.
Maybe you should invest in a weed whacker while you're at it.

Clouseau,

Some of the cars I bought at auction yesterday cost more than you probably make in a year. You should stop knocking people who shine shoes for a living too, although I expect that from the typical NY elitist. Nothing wrong with a person working hard for a living. Liberal elitist, you proved my point about you.

SentToStud 06-28-2006 02:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
Are you a professional gambler? I just think it is odd that I picked a few races out of all the races in america, and you also were betting the race. Now it is possible, but considering you made you pick at post time I am going to guess you bet every race or you just throw up picks and don't really bet them. Who knows, maybe it was a coincidence. Doubt it though.

no, son, more semi-pro. but i do handicap the card and if a horse goes off x% above what i think it should, that's when i bet. Prosp Queen ft well. At a certain odds level, I will bet ex boxes with my selection. IOn a 10 race card, I will bet 3-4 races. I suggest you stop worrying about me and start handicapping better or else your daddy will be broke.

Downthestretch55 06-28-2006 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by Exceller
Clouseau,

Some of the cars I bought at auction yesterday cost more than you probably make in a year. You should stop knocking people who shine shoes for a living too, although I expect that from the typical NY elitist. Nothing wrong with a person working hard for a living. Liberal elitist, you proved my point about you.

Now that's even funnier!!!
When you threw out that you went to the "auction", I thought you were taliking about the Fasig-Tipton Timonium. High price 42K.

I really AM so impressed by you!
Any more names?
"Typical NY elitist", "Liberal elitist"...
The names and insults are getting old.

So, did you buy any flood cars that you can turn around on your used car lot?

Exceller 06-28-2006 02:41 PM

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Originally Posted by SentToStud
no, son, more semi-pro. but i do handicap the card and if a horse goes off x% above what i think it should, that's when i bet. Prosp Queen ft well. At a certain odds level, I will bet ex boxes with my selection. IOn a 10 race card, I will bet 3-4 races. I suggest you stop worrying about me and start handicapping better or else your daddy will be broke.

My daddy is no longer with us. I will never go broke because I stop gambling if my TVG account runs out of money. I won't fill up again until next January when I put a certain percentage of my income into the account. All depends on how the cars are moving.

Exceller 06-28-2006 02:46 PM

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Originally Posted by Downthestretch55
Now that's even funnier!!!
When you threw out that you went to the "auction", I thought you were taliking about the Fasig-Tipton Timonium. High price 42K.

I really AM so impressed by you!
Any more names?
"Typical NY elitist", "Liberal elitist"...
The names and insults are getting old.

So, did you buy any flood cars that you can turn around on your used car lot?

Actually the auctions I go to are not open to the public. Many are cars that were leased or rentals.

Don't you have to go bash more working class people, you elitist. I guess you are better than guys who shine shoes.

Sounds like someone beat you to the Kingofturfway mystery Clouseau. Maybe you should be spending more time on important things like that and less time bashing people that work hard for a living.


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