What will English Channel's Beyer Be?

I'll go with 104.

For me....

American based Dirt: Ghostzapper and Discreet Cat (who will prove what he needs to this year)

American based Turf: Lure and Kotashann

10 paces....then we will see who can shut their laptop the fastest...

I dont know...but Drugs seems to have that stuff down...

I think Discreet Cat is the next horse that could do it, if he has a chance to show it. But he is like Ghostzapper in that he seems to be fragile or at least handled like that. I'd like to see an actual campaign this year, not 3 races.

I'm not a big fan of Turf figures......

I don't even bother projecting them or fooling around with them.

what about them dont you like?

It's hard for English Channel's fig to be very good when you consider who ran second and third and what they are capable of.

Turf figs are irrelevent anyway.

And, by the way DrugS, Kotashan? What were you excited by his thrilling duels with Bien Bien?

They are meaningless as turf final times are completly a function of pace.

meaningless just in Beyer #'s or in sheet #'s also?

Personally, I do like the Thoros numbers for turf races. I find the patterns much more predictable, but of course on turf, the trip is so important.

Ghostzapper's 2005 Met Mile

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3rTgIMEzce8

It's a shame he didn't get to finish the year.

I was actually.

I thought the final 8 races of his career were all spectacular. I guess they all came in a 10 month window, and he wasn't all that much before that, so I can see how he misses your cut.

...... That and he's never won anything better than a French Group 3 outside of So Cal.

I've seen many Euro based one's who I'd rate above him since, Daylami especially....but, Kotashaan was a fairly deserving Horse of the Year in '93, on the basis of the final 8 races of his career.

LOL.....Forest Danger at 2-1:eek:

Oh yes, they line up to bet Pletcher.

I leave you boys with this as I head to bed....Da Man:cool:

THAT WAS THREE years AGO......THREE...you should at least put a picture up there when he won at Churchill last year...

If he did that he might have to show how Cacique was ridden into a wall and would've collared his boy had he gotten out in time. Able to turn the tables in the Manhattan, however.

that was 2005 genius...his 3 yo year....he is 5 this year.

I thought he won that race as a 2 year old, oh, his 3 year old year, when he was suppose to be nut CITY in the Secretariat Stakes at Arlington, 1200 for Scav if he wins and NO, Gun Salute beats him...or Cool Commander, whatever the f'n horses name was.....FRIGGIN GUN SALUTE????? Laviolette could beat Gun Salute on a 50k claimer from Arlington

Hey Scavs....wanna know what a $100 of Randalls money looks like in my pocket....this pic will show you:D

we have discussed that race time and again...quit hating on EC.

AP Warrior is the one you need to be hating on...:eek:

Ahhhhhhhhhh. I thought you were asleep. I'll be taking that money back and then some at the Spa. Daily matchups between us.

He was a rat, I admit it....I touted him once....

That $100 looks good by the way, I need a couple of those pockets after tomorrow's possible tilt session

You need to stop hanging from EC's balls though....Is isn't like he is Fanmore or Star of Cozzene

I think Bethani want's more of your donations this year too:D

Two words...

GUN SALUTE

Dude...you know I am nowhere near as obnoxious about EC as I used to be. I was very quiet about him all week.

Like Gander said...that horse went from 3rd place to last place in the blink of an eye today...

I would be quiet also if my horse shows up in a race WRITTEN for him, pletcher probably refunded all the other owners entry money......

Like the F'ing Golden Goose. LOL.:D :D :D

Im gonna ride that gravy train until it stops....:o


Im out boys....6:00 am comes early.:cool:

Me as well. Till then.

Considering how rank English Channel has been in the past, I thought he ran a great race yesterday. :cool:

Kev, I hope he shuts them all up in Dubai. :D

Over the pond isn't a rock hard tennis court. GP Turf is like the Black top

looked to me like jv was looking around to see if he was gonna get passed in the str..a nice come back..but..hes toast in dubai............

I think the times at Gulf for the turf races are fine.

Whether the distances are correct is another matter.

Dear T3B,

Congrats on your favorite boy winning. I hope he returns from Dubai in good order as I really look forward to beating him. :D

I remain

Very Truly Yours,

Showing Up

Dear Showing Up,

I aint scared....

Til we meet,

EC:cool:

Dear EC,

Thank you for following me home to make sure I got there safely.

xo
The Tin Man :D

ha,ha,ha!!!!!!