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Samarta

01-23-2007 08:37 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

the risk of having screaming kids is one thing....FAA Rules and regs regarding take-off is another. you have to be in your seat and belted--they delayed for 15 minutes while the little darling slapped mommy and daddy around and played hide and seek. why should over 100 others be kept waiting while junior has a fit? they did the right thing, it's the same that would be done about any unruly passenger-regardless of age.

can't wait til she's 15....

I'm not suggesting safety issues or regs should be overlooked, I was simply saying that I understand the screaming kid thing.

GenuineRisk

01-24-2007 11:40 AM

I think AirTran did the safe thing. What I don't get is why the parents couldn't sit on either side of her and physically hold her in that seat. How big do three-year-olds get these days?

But, I'm grouchy about small kids on airplane flights, anyway. I didn't get to take an airplane flight until I was 11, and even then I was weepy on the descent (my Dad hadn't thought to tell us about the pressure change and it HURT. I've never gotten on a plane since without chewing gum to keep my ears popping on the way down).

With the restaurant thing- my problem is when parents of small children take the kids to upscale restaurants. I have no problem with screaming kids at Olive Garden, or Red Lobster, or Chevy's or whatever, just as I have no problem with screaming kids at a 2PM G-rated matinee (in fact, I think better to see a kids' film with actual kids in the audience- their reactions are usually as much fun as the film!). But small kids at a fancy place, or at a 10PM R-rated film make me nuts, because I feel it's as though the parents don't want to accept that maybe they have to make some sacrifices during the kids' first few years, and not get to go to grown-up things unless they can find a sitter or until the kids are old enough to handle it, you know?

GPK	01-24-2007 11:44 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

I think AirTran did the safe thing. What I don't get is why the parents couldn't sit on either side of her and physically hold her in that seat. How big do three-year-olds get these days?

But, I'm grouchy about small kids on airplane flights, anyway. I didn't get to take an airplane flight until I was 11, and even then I was weepy on the descent (my Dad hadn't thought to tell us about the pressure change and it HURT. I've never gotten on a plane since without chewing gum to keep my ears popping on the way down).

With the restaurant thing- my problem is when parents of small children take the kids to upscale restaurants. I have no problem with screaming kids at Olive Garden, or Red Lobster, or Chevy's or whatever, just as I have no problem with screaming kids at a 2PM G-rated matinee (in fact, I think better to see a kids' film with actual kids in the audience- their reactions are usually as much fun as the film!). But small kids at a fancy place, or at a 10PM R-rated film make me nuts, because I feel it's as though the parents don't want to accept that maybe they have to make some sacrifices during the kids' first few years, and not get to go to grown-up things unless they can find a sitter or until the kids are old enough to handle it, you know?

Nicole, love, PLEASE tell me you dont eat at Red Lobster....place is awful

brianwspencer

01-24-2007 11:46 AM

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Originally Posted by T3B

Nicole, love, PLEASE tell me you dont eat at Red Lobster....place is awful

Ha! So true. I used to think it was so good when I was younger and we'd sometimes go there for "special" occasions.

I was in the Akron area for a music festival last summer and my friend from high school and I decided to go out for a real dinner...and we chose there.

The fish was disgusting, everything was terrible, even the salad. The biscuits are the only redeeming quality about the place.

It was about 1% as good as I remembered it. I'll never go there again, especially when there's a Real Seafood Co. in Ann Arbor.

Cajungator26

01-24-2007 11:48 AM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Ha! So true. I used to think it was so good when I was younger and we'd sometimes go there for "special" occasions.

I was in the Akron area for a music festival last summer and my friend from high school and I decided to go out for a real dinner...and we chose there.

The fish was disgusting, everything was terrible, even the salad. The biscuits are the only redeeming quality about the place.
It was about 1% as good as I remembered it. I'll never go there again, especially when there's a Real Seafood Co. in Ann Arbor.

There we go agreeing on something else! :eek:

I love those damn cheese biscuits... everything else is food poisoning quality. LOL

GPK	01-24-2007 11:54 AM

yeah...that place dont serve seafood...not sure what it is, but it aint seafood.

Danzig

01-24-2007 11:58 AM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

There we go agreeing on something else! :eek:

I love those damn cheese biscuits... everything else is food poisoning quality. LOL

those and popeyes biscuits. mmmmm

but yeah, i don't like chain restaurants for the most part. BUT i will make an exception for pappa deaux's. excellent food!!

i am very picky about seafood--grew up right by the chesapeake bay, so i know what fresh seafood tastes like.

around here--farm raised catfish--very, very good. little out of the way place we go to once in a while, good stuff. but there's a place right here people go to and rave about--it STINKS. but it's all they ever go to, so nothing to compare to i guess....

brianwspencer

01-24-2007 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

There we go agreeing on something else! :eek:

I love those damn cheese biscuits... everything else is food poisoning quality. LOL

Now I'm hungry for fish....damnit!

brianwspencer

01-24-2007 12:03 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig188

i am very picky about seafood--grew up right by the chesapeake bay, so i know what fresh seafood tastes like....

Ugh, I didn't know good seafood until I moved to Portland, OR. Being an hour from the coast has its advantages. Then I came back to the Midwest, and everything here completely sucks, or it's widly overpriced if it's anything near fresh.

It's so hard to get a decent piece of fish around here.

Cajungator26

01-24-2007 12:07 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

Now I'm hungry for fish....damnit!

OMG Brian... please don't make me comment. :eek: :D

So, I've got a book of Zagat's best rated restaurants in South Florida. I'm sure we'll find some good seafood places. I don't really care for seafood, but I'll eat the mild fish like tilapia, mahi etc. Can't stand anything else... yuck.

Cajungator26

01-24-2007 12:08 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

It's so hard to get a decent piece of fish around here.

Not around here... we'll find a great place to eat at on Saturday or Sunday. Florida has some great seafood places.

brianwspencer

01-24-2007 12:15 PM

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Originally Posted by Cajungator26

Not around here... we'll find a great place to eat at on Saturday or Sunday. Florida has some great seafood places.

I was just going to PM you and see if you'd be up for going out for seafood while we're down there, as I'd imagine it's got to be better than it is here!

I don't like a lot of types of fish -- mostly stick with tilapia or halibut when I can afford it. Thank goodness for Whole Foods around here, even though it costs an arm and a leg!

GenuineRisk

01-24-2007 02:00 PM

Kev- your post made me laugh out loud- don't worry; I haven't eaten at a Red Lobster since I can't remember when. Though the one in Times Square is always packed, proving once again there's no accounting for taste. But. like Brian's experience, as a kid that was where we went for a "nice" dinner, too. And I hated it. They would bring the popcorn shrimp (all I'd eat) right away, I'd eat it and then have to sit for what seemed like forever while the grownups waited for their food.

But if I did eat there, I'd be fine with screaming kids. ;)

I like catfish, and I also like tilapia- we served tilapia at our wedding because it's an environmentally sound fish to eat- they mature fast, are plentiful, and because they're harvested so young they don't have time to accumulate mercury. Good for the planet and for people both!

Mmm... Whole Foods. I just went there for the salad bar for lunch. It is expensive, but I'm such a fussy eater it's worth it to me.

brianwspencer

01-24-2007 02:05 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk

Mmm... Whole Foods. I just went there for the salad bar for lunch. It is expensive, but I'm such a fussy eater it's worth it to me.

I can't afford to shop there on a regular basis, but certain things are a must from there -- ie their fish and meats.

Their deli case is simply awesome too -- all the prepared stuff they have. I wish their chicken noodle soup wasn't like $6 for a quart, then I could afford it.

GenuineRisk

01-24-2007 02:31 PM

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Originally Posted by brianwspencer

I mostly do the salad bar, as carrying home groceries on the subway gets old and we have a pretty good organic grocery store near us. Oh, but do I love that salad bar, though! And that they use recyclable plastic for the take-away containers (I usually wash my out and reuse it, but it's nice to know it can be recycled.)

Buffymommy

01-24-2007 03:10 PM

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Originally Posted by Samarta

Much to my dismay, I'm gonna stay out of the branding conversation and address the 3 year old. You know what, I think it's bs....If the airlines don't want screaming kids then set an age requirement. Now I've flown what I would consider a huge amount of miles and there have been times when I was miserable because of a kid or the "Oh dear" of the person beside me, but the way I look at it is we all have bad days, you just deal with it. Worst flight I was ever on. You couldn't dream this one up. I was on a flight from LA to Tokyo with a stop in Anchorage and Seoul. From LA to Anchorage it was a piece of cake, plenty of room, lots of peace and quiet and then we picked up in Anchorage. The plane was 4 seats, isle, 10 seats, isle, 4 seats. I was in the middle of the 10 seat section and it just so happened that the airline messed up or those were the only seats available but I had a family of 8 or 9 with 4 to my left and the other 4 or 5 to my right. The didn't speak english, which is usually not a big deal unless you are the middle man between all their peanut and snack trading. It was so bad it was funny. I tried to get them to switch seats and they said no. I tried to get another seat on the plane and it was full after the Anchorage pick up. 12 hours of passing peanuts, magazines, or whatever else was catching their attention at the time. I think back and still laugh about it.

It wasn't because the kid was screaming and yelling, BUT because the kid wouldn't sit in her seat. My mom would have grabbed my ear, sat me down and buckled my seat belt. I wouldn't have dared move for the entire flight!

I do say I can appreciate your story about being the "middleman". I had a three and a half hour flight between an old couple. It was quite comical now. Everytime I tried to fall asleep one would need something and bump me in the process of handing it to the other.

eurobounce

01-24-2007 03:20 PM

I agree with the airline.

Buffymommy

01-24-2007 03:26 PM

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Originally Posted by T3B

Nicole, love, PLEASE tell me you dont eat at Red Lobster....place is awful

They are sea rapists and I will not eat there.

Cajungator26

01-24-2007 04:17 PM

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Originally Posted by Buffymommy

They are sea rapists and I will not eat there.

Everyone I know has gotten food poisoning from Red Lobster, so I stay away. :eek:

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