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timmgirvan 01-13-2007 05:03 PM
I think it's past the point of money....I don't think that's the issue now.

Downthestretch55 01-13-2007 05:08 PM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
3 years ago I had a horse come in from turnout lame...three legged lame. The owner agreed to have the leg x-rayed and the horse had fractured his patella and chipped a good flake off his femur...he was a decent sugical candidate (and the $$ was not an issue)...but he had had 2 previous surgeries while racing to remove chips and both times had serious issues recovering from anesthesia so the owner opted for a wait and see approach...to keep him 'acceptably comfortable' with medication and stall rest...that horse lived for 18 months...he ate well and hobbled around with his pasture mates....but he was not a happy horse (he was 'bright'...but that does not mean happy)...his owner loved him dearly and refused to see that the kindest solution was to put hime down...it wasn't until he had gone so far downhill that he wouldn't eat and had lost a great deal of weight that he allowed me to have the horse put down...
today 2 almost 2 years after the horse was buried he admits that he wishes he hadn't waited so long...that horse was a fighter too.
Pais,
Thanks for that story. Gosh, I have mine. Too many, all sad.
I won't share them now cause they'll take from the real concerns on this thread.
Sometimes, it's just too hard to do what's best for the horse depite what we humans want.

sumitas 01-13-2007 05:19 PM
No question Barbaro is recovering. His people are absolutely doing the right thing because the horse wants to live. You folks would do better to try and improve the safety of horse racing instead of biting the heels of this group of caring health experts.

paisjpq 01-13-2007 05:23 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Sad story and you make a good point. But I still have faith that those involved will do right by the colt. No two situations are the exact same and who knows how this will turn out. In my heart I don't feel like the connections are doing this out of selfishness. I feel like they truly want him around and I feel like Dr. Richardson wouldn't do anything he felt Barbaro couldn't handle.
love is selfish sometimes....like I said i don't think they have anything but the best intentions. I just disagree at this point. Fortunately my opinion doesn't matter.

sumitas 01-13-2007 05:24 PM
No it doesn't. Don't you have anything better to do than knock Barbaro and his people ?

randallscott35 01-13-2007 05:28 PM
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Originally Posted by sumitas
No question Barbaro is recovering. His people are absolutely doing the right thing because the horse wants to live. You folks would do better to try and improve the safety of horse racing instead of biting the heels of this group of caring health experts.
You know Sumitas, I went out of my way in my initial post to talk about the Jacksons in a positive light. And simply having a view which is not in the mainstream in the horse racing community right now doesn't mean I am attacking the people invovled with the horse at all....So don't try and turn this into a vindictive type thread, b/c its not.

sumitas 01-13-2007 05:31 PM
It is vindictive and you started this despicable thread and I'm calling you and the others of your ilk on it. Go and do something positive with your time.

randallscott35 01-13-2007 05:32 PM
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Originally Posted by sumitas
It is vindictive and you started this despicable thread and I'm calling you and the others of your ilk on it. Go and do something positive with your time.
LOL. Ok. A serious topic can't be discussed b/c you get your panties in a bunch? Please.

Rupert Pupkin 01-13-2007 05:33 PM
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Originally Posted by brianwspencer
But by and large you can tell by their temperment if they are miserable or not. If it were some schmo on the street insisting that he keep fighting it would be different -- I think it's been clear from the beginning that Dr. Richardson and the Jacksons would never press it one second further than was good for Barbaro. I trust in their opinions 100%.
Yes, I agree with you 100%.

sumitas 01-13-2007 05:33 PM
Oh yes they are and I find it cheap and distasteful. Now I'll go on to something else.

Cajungator26 01-13-2007 05:41 PM
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Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
Dude calm down. Nothing vindictive I see. Do yourself a favor and go check out the "lessons learned from chickens" thread. that might help you cool out.
:D
DaHoss, thanks for the laugh... :D

This topic definitely deserves to be brought up and I respectfully disagree with Randall and Beth on their viewpoints. I think that Barbaro will let everyone know when he's ready to go, and I don't believe he's shown yet that he's ready to quit. Let's not kid ourselves here, either... the majority of stallions don't get to live a REAL horse's life. Do you guys honestly believe that stallions are happy being turned out in paddocks alone? I don't. It's in a horse's nature to be a herd animal, and believe me, thoroughbred stallions don't get that opportunity, either way. JMO.

GenuineRisk 01-13-2007 06:48 PM
I'm torn- on the one hand, I think animals do let us know when it's time- a friend of mine just had to have her cat put down due to cancer, and she was told that she would "know" when it was time. She didn't believe that for a second, but sure enough, she said she realized when it was time. If Barbaro's connections think he's still in the fight, I believe them.

On the other hand, as bad as his laminitis is, I would be surprised if he lived to be an old horse- I feel like it will flare up again and wonder if he is going to be in for a life of constant fight against the laminitis and if the quality of life he's going to have will be worth it.

I just don't know. I want so badly for him to make it, but that doesn't mean it's best for him.

Coach Pants 01-13-2007 06:53 PM
I'm not giving up on him yet. Let him live!!

Left Bank 01-13-2007 07:04 PM
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I'm not giving up on him yet. Let him live!!
Love the avatar!!

paisjpq 01-13-2007 07:26 PM
not trying to add fuel to the fire but he had another procedure today...
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37069

timmgirvan 01-13-2007 07:30 PM
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Originally Posted by paisjpq
not trying to add fuel to the fire but he had another procedure today...
http://news.bloodhorse.com/viewstory.asp?id=37069
They're just "fine-tuning" the course of treatment. I think this actually a good thing...they're trying to stay on top of his treatment. Kudos!


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