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philcski 11-08-2006 08:05 AM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Well, look at it this way....who has really been a bigger problem for NYRA....Pataki or Spitzer?
Good question, the "i don't want any part of it" governor or the "seek and destroy" AG/now governor? Spitzer has gone out of his way to paint NYRA as the bad guy, almost to the point of delusion on his part. I'd say he's a worse problem...

FWIW, I liked Pataki and don't think much of Spitzer, despite the fact that I generally lean Democrat.

philcski 11-08-2006 08:08 AM
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Originally Posted by QUANROSS
Jesus. This is not what I wanted to hear. I really appreciate hearing from someone who knows the situation firsthand. I am in Ky., and we OBVIOUSLY have our own problems. Out of ignorance, I ask this question, why does he hate NYRA exactly? I don't doubt you, just uninformed. Or, maybe you could direct me to a website?
I'm not sure. I always saw his motives as a political ploy (successful.) If you google "Spitzer" and "NYRA" you'll come up with some of the attacks he's made.
Here's one from the state government website:
http://www.oag.state.ny.us/press/200...jun14a_03.html

Revolution 11-08-2006 08:13 AM
NYRA IS GONE. Excelsior will be running NY racing.


Let's see, a corrupt and incompetent group like NYRA or a group run by somebody connected to the NY Yankees organization. I wonder who would do a better job. LOL.

America yesterday showed us what happens to corrupt and incompetent people when they kicked them out of congress, now the next corrupt and incompetent group, NYRA, will be kicked out soon enough. :)

I laugh so hard at the NYRA supporters. You want to reward corruption and incompetence. When the US and NY government have to go after you and you have to file for bankruptcy, you are not supposed to be rewarded.

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-08-2006 11:22 AM
Well answer this!
 
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Piece of advice.....stay away from the windows if THAT's your best bet.
Is it really that bad now that NYRA is running things or is it bad from what the Pols tell us. EVERYBODY will far from the windows if people who DON'T know an once of thoroughbred racing take over NYRA. Mark my words if this happens.

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-08-2006 11:27 AM
Well we'll see...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolution
NYRA IS GONE. Excelsior will be running NY racing.


Let's see, a corrupt and incompetent group like NYRA or a group run by somebody connected to the NY Yankees organization. I wonder who would do a better job. LOL.

America yesterday showed us what happens to corrupt and incompetent people when they kicked them out of congress, now the next corrupt and incompetent group, NYRA, will be kicked out soon enough. :)

I laugh so hard at the NYRA supporters. You want to reward corruption and incompetence. When the US and NY government have to go after you and you have to file for bankruptcy, you are not supposed to be rewarded.
I highly doubt it will be any better when the "corrupt" NYRA is gone. Funny how you think the people kick corrupt pols out of office. I my state (NY) just re-elected a comptroller who is a CROOK!!! And by an LANDSLIDE! It's apparent that you have an "axe to grind" with NYRA. If you think it's that bad, DON'T PLAY THE GAME in NY!

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-08-2006 11:30 AM
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Originally Posted by Cardus
Don't sell short the idea that Spitzer says, "NYRA was corrupt, but under my watch, it has reformed its business practices," as a way to say, "See, look what I can accomplish."

It is not farfetched that Spitzer rolls over the franchise to NYRA.
It's quite possible he'll do just that. He need a case to get him elected and found "little things" to start the ball running versus NYRA. I STILL don't trust him though!

Revolution 11-08-2006 11:41 AM
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Originally Posted by Hickory Hill Hoff
It's quite possible he'll do just that. He need a case to get him elected and found "little things" to start the ball running versus NYRA. I STILL don't trust him though!
He needed a case to get him elected? Are you clueless. Nobody outside of racing has an idea about NYRA and Spitzer. Spitzer made his reputation going after corruption on Wall Street, not some group like NYRA, which nobody has heard of.

How do you guys know racing won't get better under Excelsior. They seemed to do just fine with the Yankees and helping run Donald Trumps business, not to mention Gary Contessa and the New York Horsemen's Association supports them.

Defending corrupt jokers like NYRA is disgusting. They should have been kicked out long ago but the state had to keep them around because of the contract.

BYE BYE NYRA. Hello competent people. I think the son-in-law of the Yankees owner and one of Trump's top advisors are just a little more qualified than some corrupt thugs.

sumitas 11-08-2006 12:35 PM
That might be all true. I'd like to see him ask for adendums to the bids stating how the 3 tracks and training surfaces will move to a synthetic surface. All bidders have dodged this multimillion dollar improvement.

Cannon Shell 11-08-2006 01:14 PM
Tell me exactly how the Yankees are a model business? The people who run the Yankees haven't been able win a championship in 7 years with an giant financial advantage. And unless they do some wise spending in the off season, they'll be closer to Finger Lakes than NYRA in racing terms.

Cannon Shell 11-08-2006 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Well, look at it this way....who has really been a bigger problem for NYRA....Pataki or Spitzer?
Who was a worse Dictator, Hitler or Tojo ?

Hickory Hill Hoff 11-08-2006 03:37 PM
As for defending NYRA...
 
Quote:
Originally Posted by Revolution
He needed a case to get him elected? Are you clueless. Nobody outside of racing has an idea about NYRA and Spitzer. Spitzer made his reputation going after corruption on Wall Street, not some group like NYRA, which nobody has heard of.

How do you guys know racing won't get better under Excelsior. They seemed to do just fine with the Yankees and helping run Donald Trumps business, not to mention Gary Contessa and the New York Horsemen's Association supports them.

Defending corrupt jokers like NYRA is disgusting. They should have been kicked out long ago but the state had to keep them around because of the contract.

BYE BYE NYRA. Hello competent people. I think the son-in-law of the Yankees owner and one of Trump's top advisors are just a little more qualified
than some corrupt thugs.
What exactly has been wrong with NYRA's racing product, answer me this! It beats any other racing in the country. As for Spitzer, just another lawyer who became governor. What will he do any better and any other pol. I guess YOUR just another "bleeding heart lib" who thinks anything that comes from the party in power is the end all to corruption. You've all ready made him a saint! We shall see, but the "new" runners of racing in the state of N.Y. won't have an easy time when all the pols want the money to themselves.
I guess we've found where our old pal, Nostra's has been. You must be his twin brother!


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