If we are talking 1 race 10f all horses at there best, i want Arrogate. It's not really close.

I would tend to agree given the prerequisite above. Arrogate's Travers is on my Mt Rushmore and is DWC ain't far behind. I also think AP's BCC is dissed way too much.

Arrogate BCC is an amazing race. He gunned down Chrome on the money after Chrome had that race handed to him. A beautiful performance.

Arrogate steals the show in the BC Classic.

Right or wrong I never rated Chrome and certainly not as high as Gun Runner. It's all pretty subjective at that level.

On his best day, Ghostzapper runs them all off their feet between 6 and 10f. Too bad he was such a cripple and needed huge breaks betwens starts to get well enough to even run. Had he been healthy enough to train more regularly, it would have been scary.

His very best vs Arrogates very best is a great race. It's no cake walk for GZ.

Of course you can only beat what's in front of you, so what was the point of putting that list?

19 on the list are graded stakes winners.

Only Core Beliefs and Firenze Fire have won a graded stakes (both G3) since May.

12 horses: Gronkowski, Restoring Hope, Quip, Audible, Instilled Regard, My Boy Jack, Solomini, Bolt D'Oro, Enticed, Magnum Moon, Tre, and Show Time Rocket have either retired, been officially given time off, or have sparse worktabs.

5 on the list have won a race of any consequence in July. Firenze Fire (G3), Hofburg (STK), Shivermetimbers (ALW), Paddock Pick (MSW), and Jimmy Chila (40K claimer).

Add Promises Fulfilled to the list of Grade 3 stakes winners post-Derby...

How many on that list were kept on the Derby trail, to be defeated again by Justify? Needed a rest after trying to? None could. You may be looking at it wrong.
If they come back and look good again, does that mean we are all mistaken?

Some DOPE on Twitter (TracksideTyler) just had the nerve to say that Good Magic is a “nice 2nd tier horse”.

Follow this loser at your own peril. I’m about to ask him to prove that he paid off the Kentucky Derby bet ($50 to winner’s charity of choice). I picked Disabled Jockey Fund. This dude was SOOO against Justify and $hit-talked him so badly prior to the Derby that I had enough of it and told him to put his money where his $hitty mouth is. I gave him 3 horses and I took Justify. I think his horses were Audible, Magnum Moon, and Mendelssohn (perhaps). One laid up, one retired, and Mendy might never win another race in his lifetime unless they get him back on his preferred surface!

This is nice to see....
 

McKinzie ...thought this was the best horse going into the derby preps.

http://www.equibase.com/profiles/Res...708&registry=T

Last I heard, if he had thumbs, he would twiddle them.

But, now I will behave myself and see what I can find out.

Pennsylvania Derby seems to be where Baff is thinking of sending him. I still can't get this thing to post a link, I have some setting wrong. I think there is a story this morning in drf.