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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1108787)

I like audible for sure, but look at the physicality of Justify if you need convincing. He is a big bad man who looks the part.

Well when you’re sitting back in your rose pink Cadillac
Making bets on Kentucky Derby day

DEAD FLOWERS...ROLLING STONES - STICKY FINGERS 1971

Well when you're sitting there in your silk upholstered chair
Talkin' to some rich folk that you know
Well I hope you won't see me in my ragged company
Well, you know I could never be alone

Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the queen of the underground
And you can send me dead flowers every morning
Send me dead flowers by the mail
Send me dead flowers to my wedding
And I won't forget to put roses on your grave

Well when you're sitting back in your rose pink Cadillac
Making bets on Kentucky Derby Day
Ah, I'll be in my basement room with a needle and a spoon
And another girl to take my pain away

Take me down little Susie, take me down
I know you think you're the queen of the underground
And you can send me dead flowers every morning
Send me dead flowers by the mail
Send me dead flowers to my wedding
And I won't forget to put roses on your grave

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Originally Posted by Mike A (Post 1108825)

The filly that ran 2nd to Mendelssohn is 15-1 in the Oaks.
If Justify has any traffic issues I believe Smith will go at least 8 wide turning for home, no way he goes ala Bo-rail

LETS SEE HOW THIS FILLY RUNS...EYE TO FRAME THE VICTORY BY MENDY

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Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1108902)

LETS SEE HOW THIS FILLY RUNS...EYE TO FRAME THE VICTORY BY MENDY

Would you judge anyone else in the field based on how a horse that finished 18 lengths behind them ran next time out?

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1108904)

Would you judge anyone else in the field based on how a horse that finished 18 lengths behind them ran next time out?

Well you would if you can't spell Secretariat correctly.

well when i was attending one of the 19 grades of private Christian school, with a replacement cost today of $400,000; spelling meant something..
.but..I am not a journalist or a schoolboy, and this ain't the AP wire,
fact is asking Steve to change it is just too much trouble given our checkerd past

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1108904)

Would you judge anyone else in the field based on how a horse that finished 18 lengths behind them ran next time out?

i'll respond to this lame attack and attempt to jab at me by someone who thinks that in some mysterious way they outrank me in life with this statement.

If you can't see how an ITM performance by Rayya gives credence to the running of Mendy in Dubai, then I guess you just dont understand apriori logic.

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Originally Posted by Kitan (Post 1108904)

Would you judge anyone else in the field based on how a horse that finished 18 lengths behind them ran next time out?

your just jealous cause i was able to sing dead flowers as a teenager and watch Mic dance across the stage at Chicago Stadium in 1973.

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Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1108909)

your just jealous cause i was able to sing dead flowers as a teenager and watch Mic dance across the stage at Chicago Stadium in 1973.

I'm jealous.....best I could do is jerry Garcia singing run for the roses.

Sticky Fingers is a top 5 stones album for sure

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Originally Posted by Alabama Stakes (Post 1108911)

I'm jealous.....best I could do is jerry Garcia singing run for the roses.

Sticky Fingers is a top 5 stones album for sure

if it wasn't for the lyrics about the needle and spoon, a sticky issue, no doubt, dead Flowers may have become more of a main stream tune to accompany the derby.
Further, dead flowers, is a glimpse into the demonic side of the bad boys of rock and the sordid underbelly of the times, as Sympathy for the Devil also appears on sticky fingers. A time or national turmoil as many disrespected their duty of obligation to fight for America when called and thumbed their collective noses at the Dominoes falling in south east asia, while the woman in the baby killer generation lined up in mass to murder their unwanted in womb children.

But I stray from dissing Justify

interesting noun

Interesting, Take it for What its worth Just saw this about Justify from another Forum. if he were to break a step Slow Tomorrow, i would not like his chances.

2/18 MSW Wrona "Justify last into stride"
3/11 OCL Equibase Chart "off step slow"
4/7 STK Equibase Chart "drifted out into stretch, drifted in some from the whip past mid stretch"

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Originally Posted by Secretriat34 (Post 1108900)

Bolt shut it down 50 yards out to save stamina in the SA derby..no whip..Justified gained a length. In the running line, Bolt Ran with justify to get the colt a chance to look into Justify's eyes...then he faded back to save stamina for 144. In kentucky, Bolt won't be held back.

Big storms here in Chicago last night, so the satellite Tv was not 100%, which gave me time to read the paper guides etc, that I have been previewing for some time.
The magnificent 7…you guide has them box A and Box B.
I doubt the exacta will be outside these 7.
Getting to my picks.
I like BOLT to be ITM…no doubt.
His runs with Mckenzie are going to be legendary as time goes by.
Bolt is the west coast pick
Vinno has the curlin sire and the streetcry damsire…wow
Vinno has a better final time at 9f than MAGIC and has a better beyer string than MAGIC.
MAGIC however is following his juvy season as far as beyer progression, and his third back …just like his third race at 2 in the BCJ will be a new top for him speed figure wise…the derby will be a big race for him.
I have warmed up to Vinno, and looking at audibles pedigree..wonder if all10 migh tbe too far.
10f is a specialty distance, and many fade 100 yards out..perhaps Audible will

I just can’t get past the way BOLT motors and his fierce competitiveness.
Ruiz a small operation..this may put his name on the map so to speak.
I guess in my heart ( which is a stupid way to bet) BOLT is my pick.
I urge you to revisit Mendy’s analysis..a $3,000,000 Sale topper of yearlings..but this is the KICKER.
He is half brother to BEHOLDER…from the same damn..the damn was the dam of the year 2016.
Beholder defeated the horses ay 10f in the Pac Classic. So he may be a scat daddy, but he has the distance from mama..and the speed of scat.
BOLT…itm…MY MONEY GOES WITH HIM LIVE OR DIE
VINNO
MAGIC
MENDY
JUSTIFY ..MOON..AUDIBLE…
THE EXACTA IS IN THIS GROUP

I think you may be right. I’m throwing out Mendy and tempted to have a lot of bets without Justify because I’m not sure I’ll like his price. I’m stuck between Vinno and Audible. I don’t think both will be there. Which is the better horse of those 2? I’m leaning Audible but feel like I may regret excluding Vinno.

red vine seems to have a longer pedigree, the issue with Audible is 10f.

Bolt, Magic, Justify...all 1 step apart
its three, three, three, colts in one.

i can't pick one over the other..

fact is MAGIC, the champ. has done nothing wrong, he ran his 2 before the derby, and is all set for his third back derby plunge.

Bolt had back problems and did not win his last 2,, DQ win in SA, and a loss to Justify. he sure pissed off Bob with his DQ in the san felipe, so much so Bob shows up with plan B , his summer project Justify

Justify has no foundation, can his talent trump his inexperience , with no dirt ever up his nose, will he win given the competition here ?

good thing Mckenzie is on the drug rehab program or he would take mo money..
typin bout Mckenzie...how bout some out of competition drug testing to be certain his run in the travers is all oats and molasses.
not to imply for one moment bob sent mac to the farm to roid him up for summer...that would be as ludicrous statement.

i don't know if the west coast will produce the winner...ITM for sure

you got Mendy, a champion in the USA, setting track time records winning by 1/2 a furlong, undefeated Moon, and the GP series went to Audible.

this is a tough exacta

who do you like in the top 2

BAFFERT -MONEY MIKE-POST -AND LAST THE HORSE.:zz::zz::tro: