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IMO the top Polytrack sires:

1. Grand Slam- not as many wins as Catienus but better quality runners
2. Catienus- dominant at TP
3. Fusaichi Pegasus

[quote=Bababooyee]FWIW

Sires w/ 10+ Wins @ TP from 9/7/05-4/6/06 (from ATM Oct.06)

Sire......................W.....TR.....MR
Catienus...............18......C.......C
Tale of the Cat......15......C.......B
Rubiano................13......C.......C
Elusive Quality.......12......C.......B
Grand Slam............12......B.......B
Peaks and Valleys...12......C.......C
Sefapiano..............11.....C.......C
Slew City Slew.......11......B.......B
Real Quiet.............10......C.......C

i fully expected to see slew city slew up there, knowing lava mans penchant for the poly track--and he is able to translate that to wins over dirt/turf. i guess using the info we have so far, it would be safe to assume dynaformers would show ability here, some of the northern dancer-line as well.

rather than using # of wins, i would like to see what stallions do percentage-wise....starts vs wins, placings. after all, if a sire only has three runners, yet all winners, that would mean more than a horse with 20 runners, and five winners.

love dep minister as well as cozzene. believe i saw that alphabet soup was reduced in fee for next year....already was a value imo.

Im guessing you bred to Desert Warrior?

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Originally Posted by Balletto

Interesting... with their results you see the same two sire-lines repeated as well. Will there be a bigger line to anything Storm Cat and Gone West???

both have Secretariat as the broodmare sire...of course the analysis will continue as it always has...my personal feeling is the very best runners can win on any surface.

when we planned our mating we considered the poly influence...our bottom line is from the family of High Cotton (stakes winner on poly), we inbred the family of Secretariat (Somethingroyal) and his sire's family (Miss Disco) and crossed him with Sir Gaylord.

The main cross is Deputy Minister over Cozzene. The actual sire is closely related to Storm Cat and Go Deputy. We hope for a healthy, happy, multi-faceted runner.

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Originally Posted by Balletto

Im guessing you bred to Desert Warrior?

u r correct sharp one...i just can't figure out the sequence of posts on page 2 of this thread...

anywho, Toccet also has the Deputy Minister/Cozzene cross.

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Originally Posted by sumitas

u r correct sharp one...i just can't figure out the sequence of posts on page 2 of this thread...

anywho, Toccet also has the Deputy Minister/Cozzene cross.

Yeah, the sequence is a little off. I must say, I thought Desert Warrior was one of the best additions to the New York breeding industry since Gold Fever.