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hoovesupsideyourhead 10-29-2006 01:45 PM

btw does happen to know of what he speaks...unless you work with the drf id just let this go..lol

timmgirvan 10-29-2006 02:11 PM

That is the first time I have seen a post go through...Hooves post at 11:45 PST? Unless he cancelled it What gives??

timmgirvan 10-29-2006 02:13 PM

I meant not go through...and there it pops up 20 mins later! Huh?

SentToStud 10-29-2006 02:22 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by blackthroatedwind
Because the attendance is slight is not a reason to treat the few that do come poorly. In fact, if anything, they deserve special treatment.

No doubt the wind conditions out there are bad, I have probably spent close to 800 afternoons at the Big A, and winter racing is tough. However, the jockeys have signed on to race here during the winter, so it seems that if they feel it is really necessary to cancel they should do it prudently. Otherwise it can become a " boy who cried wolf " scenerio.

My problem is not caring about riders safety, as I do, but really that more and more the riders are showing that, as a group, they have little interest in any concerns other than their own. Racing is in trouble and the jockeys are refusing to try and be part of the solution. In fact, considering the recent actions of the guild, it seems they are more determined to be part of the problem.

I have close friends who ride, and I have the utmost respect for them, and certainly not everybody is acting completely in their own selfish best interests. However, I wish the riders would find a voice that paints them in a better light and finds a way to unite as opposed to their current position.

Ok, racing's in trouble and the riders as a group are not part of the solution, you say. I'm curious what, say, three or four key things can the riders do as a group?

And if, as I take your comments, the riders as a group so not speak with one voice, what do you make of the NY traners? Many of their board membersl seem to have no trouble voicing opinions and issuing support regarding the franchise, but they are nowhere near unity. In fact, several of the trainers' board members have ties through client/owners to NYRA board mambers.

I'd be pleasantly surprised if there is anything non-monetary the jocks are in position to do that meaningfully improves the sport from any perspective. Strikes me there's more to be done from the NY trainers end as a group.

DJARUM 10-29-2006 02:57 PM

DD what gives
 
what bothers me is why NYRA did not refund D/D wagers but paid a consulation, is that fair?

Byebyemermaid 10-29-2006 03:07 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJARUM
what bothers me is why NYRA did not refund D/D wagers but paid a consulation, is that fair?

It's no different than having the winner of the first and you're horse is a late scratch in the 2nd.All they did in essence was scratch the whole 2nd race.

DJARUM 10-29-2006 03:09 PM

played 4-7/2-4-7, but the race wasn't run. why not pay the pick 6?

Byebyemermaid 10-29-2006 03:18 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DJARUM
played 4-7/2-4-7, but the race wasn't run. why not pay the pick 6?

Because the pik 6 starts in the 3rd race.

DJARUM 10-29-2006 03:20 PM

wht not, i bet the double and they didn't run the 2nd race. is it fair to bettors is my question. i'd be happy with a refund.

DJARUM 10-29-2006 03:32 PM

thats not what i bet a 12.60 conso, I bet doubles and they didn't run the race
seems too me if the race you bet on doesn;t run you should get your money back

Honu 10-29-2006 03:35 PM

I have been in situations in the jocks room where weather conditions are a concern wether it be driving wind and rain to the bottom being frozen under a soaked track.
Management comes into play alot of the time when riders have meetings with them BEFORE the races, usually managements stance is ride the first and see if the conditions are ok, when deep down they really know its not ok they just want to see if they can get jocks to ride.

DJARUM 10-29-2006 03:36 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Byebyemermaid
Because the pik 6 starts in the 3rd race.

no wonder I never hit the pick 6

DJARUM 10-29-2006 03:42 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by DaHoss9698
I don't really get what the problem is. You were paid more for the conso, than you would have had NYRA just refunded your doubles with the 4. But I really don't understand why you want your double with the 7 refunded, since the 7 did not win the race.

my question is the race wans't run, it's not like a late scratch. why not pay the pick 3 and the pick 6. i got paid off!!!!

DJARUM 10-29-2006 03:54 PM

0k i give you win bet on a race that wasn't run and i lost. can't wait to bet on the next race that isn't run and i lose also


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