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Danzig 11-16-2015 04:13 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1047990)

:rolleyes:

Danzig 11-16-2015 04:41 PM

"I intend to make Georgia howl." - William Tecumseh Sherman

we need to make isis howl.

Danzig 11-17-2015 08:56 AM

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rian-refugees/

just as a i thought when i saw the news yesterday, about states trying to refuse refugees.
they can't.
kind of scary how many politicians don't know the laws of this country.

joeydb 11-17-2015 12:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1048016)
https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/...rian-refugees/

just as a i thought when i saw the news yesterday, about states trying to refuse refugees.
they can't.
kind of scary how many politicians don't know the laws of this country.

That is by no means decided as of yet. States do have the right to prevent individuals from entering or staying if they so choose. It happens all the time with court cases where the convicted are told they will be arrested upon their return to the state.

jms62 11-17-2015 12:46 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1048027)
That is by no means decided as of yet. States do have the right to prevent individuals from entering or staying if they so choose. It happens all the time with court cases where the convicted are told they will be arrested upon their return to the state.



Under the Refugee Act of 1980, “President Obama has explicit statutory authorization to accept foreign refugees into the United States.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...-their-states/


Now if the president is steadfast in accepting refugee's and terrorists use that wide open hole to gain entry and something happens we know exactly who to blame.

Danzig 11-17-2015 12:49 PM

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Originally Posted by joeydb (Post 1048027)
That is by no means decided as of yet. States do have the right to prevent individuals from entering or staying if they so choose. It happens all the time with court cases where the convicted are told they will be arrested upon their return to the state.

try again.
note scotus rulings, the fed is in charge of immigration, etc.
as for a u.s. citizen,
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Freedo...ted_States_law

get rid of effing isis, get syria fixed up, and the refugees can go home.

Danzig 11-17-2015 01:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1048028)
Under the Refugee Act of 1980, “President Obama has explicit statutory authorization to accept foreign refugees into the United States.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...-their-states/


Now if the president is steadfast in accepting refugee's and terrorists use that wide open hole to gain entry and something happens we know exactly who to blame.

not sure how 'wide open' it'll be.
i would recommend refugees brought here not be given carte blanche to travel at will. surely we have some empty military bases that could be used to house folks.
that's what they're doing with our former bases overseas.

jms62 11-17-2015 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1048031)
not sure how 'wide open' it'll be.
i would recommend refugees brought here not be given carte blanche to travel at will. surely we have some empty military bases that could be used to house folks.
that's what they're doing with our former bases overseas.

Oh put them in Internment camps but just not call them Internment Camps.

Danzig 11-17-2015 02:40 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1048032)
Oh put them in Internment camps but just not call them Internment Camps.

like here near me in jerome ar? hey, if it was good enough for george takei...

At any rate, no, im not saying internment camps. But bases are facilities that can house a lot of people along with having everything there to handle the needs of those people. And theynare actual structures, not tents. Winters coming..
speaking of jerome....the gov of ar at that time balked at having japanese folks in the state, and demanded they pretty much be treated as prisoners with barbed wire fences and towers...manned by white fellows to watch over them of course.

joeydb 11-17-2015 06:15 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1048028)
Under the Refugee Act of 1980, “President Obama has explicit statutory authorization to accept foreign refugees into the United States.”

http://www.pbs.org/newshour/rundown/...-their-states/


Now if the president is steadfast in accepting refugee's and terrorists use that wide open hole to gain entry and something happens we know exactly who to blame.

Not disputing that the president can let them into the country, but the governor does have executive authority over his state. That's why we have governors.

If all 50 states decided to not let them in, the president can still house them in Washington DC, Guantanamo, or any other purely Federal non-State land.

Danzig 11-18-2015 12:30 AM

Had Obama said no refugees, the GOP would be clamoring to let them in.

Danzig 11-18-2015 12:39 AM

http://www.cnn.com/2015/11/17/opinio...ees/index.html

I love when history is included in a conversation about what we are facing. It helps, IMO, to help put things in perspective.

Rudeboyelvis 11-18-2015 06:36 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1048046)
Had Obama said no refugees, the GOP would be clamoring to let them in.

:rolleyes:


Why or how, is this even remotely a good thing? How about taking care of the 300,000 homeless Veterans and Children in your own country first?

I mean, I realize we're debt free and have more money trees than anyone else here in the land of milk and honey....and forcing thousands upon thousands non-english speaking, unskilled immigrants upon states that don't want them and don't have jobs for them and/or teachers that speak their children's language is a fantastic win-win and all....

Funny how the 5 wealthiest nations in the region: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, and the UAE have accepted a total of ZERO Syrians refugees - their reasoning? They KNOW there are Radical Islamists co-mingled among them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-refugee.html

But your embarrassment-in-chief knows better ...lol

jms62 11-18-2015 07:18 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1048048)
:rolleyes:


Why or how, is this even remotely a good thing? How about taking care of the 300,000 homeless Veterans and Children in your own country first?

I mean, I realize we're debt free and have more money trees than anyone else here in the land of milk and honey....and forcing thousands upon thousands non-english speaking, unskilled immigrants upon states that don't want them and don't have jobs for them and/or teachers that speak their children's language is a fantastic win-win and all....

Funny how the 5 wealthiest nations in the region: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, and the UAE have accepted a total of ZERO Syrians refugees - their reasoning? They KNOW there are Radical Islamists co-mingled among them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-refugee.html

But your embarrassment-in-chief knows better ...lol

:tro::$:

http://www.theblaze.com/stories/2015...to-this-chant/

OldDog 11-18-2015 08:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1048046)
Had Obama said no refugees, the GOP would be clamoring to let them in.

Not so sure about that.
http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-dru...yrian-refugees

Danzig 11-18-2015 08:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1048048)
:rolleyes:


Why or how, is this even remotely a good thing? How about taking care of the 300,000 homeless Veterans and Children in your own country first?

I mean, I realize we're debt free and have more money trees than anyone else here in the land of milk and honey....and forcing thousands upon thousands non-english speaking, unskilled immigrants upon states that don't want them and don't have jobs for them and/or teachers that speak their children's language is a fantastic win-win and all....

Funny how the 5 wealthiest nations in the region: Saudi Arabia, Qatar, Bahrain, Kuwait, and the UAE have accepted a total of ZERO Syrians refugees - their reasoning? They KNOW there are Radical Islamists co-mingled among them.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/arti...n-refugee.html

But your embarrassment-in-chief knows better ...lol

so, we should do as those five, and not all these? those five countries are those we should emulate?

http://www.cnn.com/2015/09/09/world/...ees-countries/


and no, i don't think obama knows better.


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Originally Posted by OldDog (Post 1048053)

i was being facetious.

at any rate, rude, we have already taken in refugees from syria, and there will be more. as there should be. we had a hand in creating that cluster****, we need to have a hand in fixing it all.

Rudeboyelvis 11-18-2015 09:08 AM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1048054)
so, we should do as those five, and not all these? those five countries are those we should emulate?

Yes. Absolutely. WE CANNOT AFFORD THEM.


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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1048054)
at any rate, rude, we have already taken in refugees from syria, and there will be more. as there should be. we had a hand in creating that cluster****, we need to have a hand in fixing it all.

And have no idea where at least one of them is right now:

http://www.thegatewaypundit.com/2015...-in-louisiana/

And you still haven't explained how "helping" them = bringing them here with NO WAY to know who they are or what their intentions are, putting them on the dole with no prospect of a decent living (just govt handouts), putting their children in a position to fail for the rest of their lives, and leaving them isolated in a community where they are shunned by people that don't want them there in the first place. You are purposely creating environments exactly like Molenbeek, Belgium:

http://www.nytimes.com/interactive/2...ects.html?_r=0

What is so wrong with a coalition force creating and securing a refugee zone where they came from? Why do you liberals have such a problem with that?

OldDog 11-18-2015 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by Rudeboyelvis (Post 1048055)
What is so wrong with a coalition force creating and securing a refugee zone where they came from?

Nothing at all. It is a better solution.
http://www.nationalreview.com/articl...lement-immoral

GenuineRisk 11-18-2015 09:25 AM

My stepmom and stepbrothers came to this country as political refugees. They didn't speak English. One stepbrother now has a Masters in Psychology and the other works for the company his father-in-law founded (his father-in-law, before he passed away, kidded to us that if my stepbrother and his wife ever split up, they were going to keep my stepbrother. ;) ) They're awesome fathers to their kids, and just good human beings all around.

My stepmom found work here as a nurse's aide and is the extraordinary grandmother to eight grand- and step-grandkids.

If they'd stayed where they were, they likely would have died as children, and my stepmom, in her 20s.

F*ck those who want to close the borders to people fleeing war and persecution. We're the f*cking US of A; we're better than that.

OldDog 11-18-2015 09:30 AM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1048050)

BHO: This isn't about mooslums.

Radical Islamic terrorist: Yes, it is.

JFK: No, it isn't.

RIT: Yes, it is!

https://www.facebook.com/faisalsalmu...06729506085781


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