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jms62 03-24-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1020243)
First of all, I couldn't tell you what Administration implemented the $10k thing in the first case, so you can't accuse me of being biased. I know the thing has been around forever. I'm used to it. Everybody knows about it. You know that if you make a deposit over 10k, it's going to be reported. I don't like it, but it is what it is. I understand why they do it.

But now they have been taking it to a whole new level. As if reporting it isn't bad enough, now they are confiscating all the money from people's accounts. As Danzig said, in this country you are supposed to be considered innocent until you are proven guilty beyond a reasonable doubt. In these money cases, it is the opposite. You are considered guilty if you make suspicious deposits. They will take away your money. The burden is on you to prove you're innocent. That is insane. I'm against that no matter who is in office. I wouldn't be shocked if there were cases similar to the cases mentioned in the NY Times while Bush was President.

But no matter who is to blame for the thing getting to the point where it has gotten like those cases mentioned in the NY Times, now Holder wants to double down and get even more aggressive. After articles like the NY Times article, most politicians were outraged and wanted to stop this kind of thing. Holder was the opposite. He thought we better start getting more aggressive and going after people making withdrawals.

You will feel even worse reading the link that I posted. Also I highly recommend the book that I posted for Zig. It is eye opening.

Danzig 03-24-2015 04:45 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1020241)
Can you articulate why you have such hatred for Obama?

ask him why he hates poor kids while you're at it:


Originally Posted by jms62

Who would pay for this effort?

rupert: I would divert the money from lunch programs for poor children.

jms62 03-24-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Danzig (Post 1020245)
ask him why he hates poor kids while you're at it:


Originally Posted by jms62

Who would pay for this effort?

rupert: I would divert the money from lunch programs for poor children.

I have to give him the benefit of the doubt I am sure he was bustin my stones. His handle is Rupert Pupkin after all.

Rupert Pupkin 03-24-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1020241)
Can you articulate why you have such hatred for Obama?

Yes, basically for all of these reasons. I think this guy articulated it very well. I don't think I could do any better. I agree with practically everything he said:

http://nypost.com/2015/03/22/israel-beware-of-obama/

Rupert Pupkin 03-24-2015 04:57 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1020246)
I have to give him the benefit of the doubt I am sure he was bustin my stones. His handle is Rupert Pupkin after all.

She is probably the only person on this entire board who thought I was serious.

Rupert Pupkin 03-24-2015 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1020244)
You will feel even worse reading the link that I posted. Also I highly recommend the book that I posted for Zig. It is eye opening.

It sounds like you have read plenty of books on this subject. What is the solution? Is there a solution? What types of policies should be implemented to reverse the path we are going down?

jms62 03-24-2015 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1020250)
It sounds like you have read plenty of books on this subject. What is the solution? Is there a solution? What types of policies should be implemented to reverse the path we are going down?

I honestly don't see a solution because those that benefit would be responsible for changing the rules.

Danzig 03-24-2015 06:34 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1020252)
I honestly don't see a solution because those that benefit would be responsible for changing the rules.

:tro:

We are screwed. Can't afford bribes....er, lobbyists.

GenuineRisk 03-24-2015 07:45 PM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1020239)
If those guys were running for President against a guy like Charles Krauthammer, who is a democrat, I would vote for Krauthammer.


"Krauthammer, who has spoken about his own switch from Democrat to Republican in the 1980s..."

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...#ixzz3VLzGYO2T


Danzig 03-24-2015 10:11 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1020258)
"Krauthammer, who has spoken about his own switch from Democrat to Republican in the 1980s..."

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...#ixzz3VLzGYO2T


:D

Rupert Pupkin 03-25-2015 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1020258)
"Krauthammer, who has spoken about his own switch from Democrat to Republican in the 1980s..."

http://www.politico.com/story/2013/1...#ixzz3VLzGYO2T


I did not realize he had switched.

I would probably like Senator Manchin. I don't know much about him but he sounds like a reasonable guy who is in the center. I have no problem with centrist Democrats. They are often times better than some of the far right republicans.

Rupert Pupkin 03-25-2015 04:53 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1020252)
I honestly don't see a solution because those that benefit would be responsible for changing the rules.

The people who make policy are obviously the lawmakers in Washington. And they obviously don't represent the people. They represent special interests. So I understand that things won't change. But in an imaginary world if we had people in congress who actually represented the people instead of special interest groups, what would they need to do to reverse the path we are on?

GenuineRisk 03-26-2015 10:04 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1020295)
The people who make policy are obviously the lawmakers in Washington. And they obviously don't represent the people. They represent special interests. So I understand that things won't change. But in an imaginary world if we had people in congress who actually represented the people instead of special interest groups, what would they need to do to reverse the path we are on?

Raise tax rates on income over $1 million a year. Return to taxing capital gains at the same rate as income, and lift the income cap on contributions to Social Security. That would be a good start.

GenuineRisk 03-26-2015 10:19 AM

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Originally Posted by Rupert Pupkin (Post 1020294)
I did not realize he had switched.


.... thirty years ago....

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I would probably like Senator Manchin. I don't know much about him but ...
He likes to shoot deer.

http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/80001517.html

jms62 03-26-2015 10:57 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1020352)
.... thirty years ago....



He likes to shoot deer.

http://www.whsv.com/home/headlines/80001517.html

Dick Cheney was a big deer hunter also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC9PTsDbN1I

Danzig 03-26-2015 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by GenuineRisk (Post 1020350)
Raise tax rates on income over $1 million a year. Return to taxing capital gains at the same rate as income, and lift the income cap on contributions to Social Security. That would be a good start.

:tro:

Raise minimum wage to where it should be, 10.50 an hour. Make future increases automatic with cost of living, like ss is done.
Put everyone in medicare, which abolishes medicaid and the broken va health system right off the bat. That gives everyone basic care, and one can buy supplements just like the elderly do.
no more subsidizing rich corporations, which is a higher budget expense than subsidies to the poor!

GenuineRisk 03-26-2015 12:27 PM

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Originally Posted by jms62 (Post 1020355)
Dick Cheney was a big deer hunter also

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MC9PTsDbN1I

:D

In all fairness, he was technically hunting quail. Even if the only thing he hit were donors. ;)

I read an article about the guy Cheney shot. He was actually pretty severely injured.


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