Liberal policy killed that man. Cigs aren't ridiculously taxed then he's not selling loosies.

No, let anyone who gets arrested resist, no matter what the reason is for the arrest.

Anarchy is a hell of a thing.

As a country we suffer from mass lack of personal and individual responsibility. That and a complete lack of reality either by choice or DNA.

Gerber, though obnoxious, is painfully correct.

I would have to agree

It's on video. The cop uses a choke hold for 6 seconds max to take him down and then kneels on his head. When the man is repeatedly heard on tape stating he can't breath he is no longer in a choke hold but likely having an asthma attack.

The cop's choke, take-down likely caused the asthma attack but the guy's refusal to cooperate caused the takedown. Wasn't like the cop was playing the knockout game looking for a vulnerable, innocent victim. :rolleyes:

[quote=Cardus;1007986]no, it's not.
the lack of indictment against this guy is exactly what i'm talking about. cops are supposed to keep the law, not break it and have no consequences.

[quote=Cardus;1008011]except it's not.
i lived with a cop, my dad. and knew a lot of his fellow cops, and i know several here. yes, they think their badge means 'omnipotence'. grand juries won't indict, their superiors do nothing.
crime is down significantly, while swat raids have increased from 3k a year to about 50k a year-mostly drug raids. then there's the militarization of the police forces, with even the la school district getting rpg's. rpgs?!?! yes, that's a fact-they got them along with their mraps. it's absurd.

[quote=Danzig;1008008]Excuse her as she is unable to decipher the difference between policy and law much less separate the two.

She's one of those, who were so eloquently defined, by Gruber.

One of "those" that looks at things objectively and takes a position rather than blindly, predictably, incessantly always taking the same position. Give me more of "those".

I didn't reply to your comment cause it was beyond absurd. When is it necessary to have to read a grand jury testimony before you comment on current events based upon what is in the public domain.

i didn't criticize the cops regarding browns shooting, but i did criticize the extreme reaction to the protests. and then, of course, when i defended protests, that meant i was somehow defending looters....
at any rate, i said at the time of the shooting that the story sounded...off...because no cop reaches out his window to try to grab someone and 'drag them inside'. to me, from the get go, it sounded like someone trying to explain why brown was struggling with the cop in his car, while making it seem it wasn't brown who was the instigator.
now, this one tho with the chokehold-whole 'nother ball game. the cop broke the dept rules, and a man is dead.
the police are important, obviously. but they shouldn't be above the laws they're supposed to uphold. and with this latest case, you have to wonder-who is holding them accountable?


and no sooner do i leave here and go to my homepage, than i see this:

http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/crime/...ent/ar-BBgkVkB


People who investigate use-of-force claims admitted they conducted probes with the goal of portraying officers as favorably as possible and some said they used an improperly high, beyond-reasonable-doubt standard, the report said.

of course they're trying to say that the chokehold wasn't a chokehold, else he violated their rules and procedures. the medical examiner rules it a homicide, citing 'compression of the neck'.
as for the cop who did the chokehold, pantaleo...he already cost ny money on another lawsuit, and has another pending.

This won't sell any papers so we barely hear of it

http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/s...oting-27362718