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GotaDunQH 10-30-2014 03:19 PM

Oh crap! I just saw that AE is a scratch!

In that case, I'll go $100 to win on Real Quiet. He was my pick last year, don't let me down this year RQ! LOL

JolyB 10-30-2014 03:36 PM

One of the reasons why I love the Breeders' Cup races is that it is possible to get excellent value on legitimate contenders who have been somewhat overlooked by the betting public.

In that spirit, I'm putting my bankroll on a few contenders who have lots of back class and are coming into the race in great form. Hopefully the late money won't destroy the price.

$40 Win: Don Guido

$40 Win: Dapplehorse

$20 Win: RYonker

Good luck to all.

Real Quiet 10-31-2014 07:04 AM

Plenilune's Picks

Gallivan: $25 W Real Quiet, $25 W Don Guido, $50 S Ryonker

Real Quiet 11-01-2014 09:40 AM

I was going to comment on what a bad group of handicappers we were until I discovered that the "sneaky fast" RYonker has a win bet on GotaDunQH <grin>.
Going into day two Ron is "looking good"!

JolyB 11-01-2014 10:40 AM

After reading RQ's post, I thought it might be interesting to post the post time odds on each of the players so you can calculate your will pays as we go into the second day of the BC races. Here they are:

1. Ruffian: ML 3-1 Off Odds: 99-1
2. DonGuido: ML 3-1 Off Odds: 9-1
3. JolyB: ML 4-1 Off Odds: 8-1
4. Real Quiet: ML 9-2 Off Odds: 5-2
5. Cruzan 200246: ML 6-1 Off Odds: 5-1
6. ryonker: ML 6-1 Off Odds: 12-1
7. Criminal Type: ML 8-1 Off Odds: 5-1
8. Arletta: ML 8-1 Off Odds: 17-1
9. GotaDunQH: ML 9-1 Off Odds: 36-1
10. dapplehorse: ML 12-1 Off Odds: 13-1

At this time, GotaDunQH is a fantastic value for that player astute enough to bet on her.

A couple of explanations. First, the odds have been set forth the way you would see them on a tote board, so some rounding and truncating has occurred. The actual payoffs will generally be a bit larger because this pool will have no takeout and no breakage.;). Second, the odds may seem very strange, but that can happen when you have a small pool. I hindsight, someone should have bet a couple of bucks on Ruff; they could have scooped the entire pool. Hey DonG - this is a fun game you created.:tro:

DonGuido 11-01-2014 12:21 PM

Lets see if GDQH can go out and set the pace and hold on to win . . . maybe? But closers usually seem to have an advantage. Thanks JB for using that IBM main frame computer brain of yours for setting the final odds. It takes team work to make something happen . . . always. And we have here to the max.

RUFFIAN 11-01-2014 12:27 PM

WOW
 
WOW

99--1 May Just Make This Filly Run Faster To Shock + Awe :p

JolyB 11-01-2014 12:37 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by RUFFIAN-333 (Post 1004490)
WOW

99--1 May Just Make This Filly Run Faster To Shock + Awe :p

I for one would not be shocked. I've been awed by your front running performance all year.:)

Arletta 11-02-2014 09:36 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Real Quiet (Post 1003821)
$50 Win Real Quiet
$50 Win Cruzan

:tro:

cruzan200246 11-02-2014 10:33 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Arletta (Post 1004919)
:tro:

Real Quiet knew something I didn't. :D

GotaDunQH 11-02-2014 01:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotaDunQH (Post 1003978)
Oh crap! I just saw that AE is a scratch!

In that case, I'll go $100 to win on Real Quiet. He was my pick last year, don't let me down this year RQ! LOL

I think this bears repeating....LOL!

Arletta 11-02-2014 02:10 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by GotaDunQH (Post 1004951)
I think this bears repeating....LOL!

Fine work

JolyB 11-02-2014 02:10 PM

And the results are:

In a dead heat for the superfecta position were Criminal Type and Plenilune, each with a total of $96.25. Ruffian garnered the show position with a total of $155.00. Fittingly, Real Quiet finished in the place position by betting on himself, but just not enough. He had a total of $192.50. But winning and going away was GotaDunQH, who got to the window after a late scratch and put it all down on RQ's nose. Despite the extra weight of all that loot, he still prevailed and won GotaDunQH a very nice payoff of $385.00.

Isn't is nice when you don't have any takeout or breakage? Have to go to DonGuido's more often.

Next time we do this, let's dispense with the place and show pools. We just don't have a large enough pool to make either of those worthwhile.

Real Quiet 11-02-2014 03:11 PM

Congrats GotaDunQH. You have a good eye for older broken down claiming horses who sometimes remember where the wire is <grin>.

DonGuido 11-02-2014 03:38 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by JolyB (Post 1004961)
And the results are:

In a dead heat for the superfecta position were Criminal Type and Plenilune, each with a total of $96.25. Ruffian garnered the show position with a total of $155.00. Fittingly, Real Quiet finished in the place position by betting on himself, but just not enough. He had a total of $192.50. But winning and going away was GotaDunQH, who got to the window after a late scratch and put it all down on RQ's nose. Despite the extra weight of all that loot, he still prevailed and won GotaDunQH a very nice payoff of $385.00.

Isn't is nice when you don't have any takeout or breakage? Have to go to DonGuido's more often.

Next time we do this, let's dispense with the place and show pools. We just don't have a large enough pool to make either of those worthwhile.

10-4 JB . . . but ya may have to remind me . . . long time until next time. Thanks for the results.


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