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NTamm1215 07-02-2013 12:02 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by cmorioles (Post 933790)
Albertrani has to be one of the sub 1 guys.

Indeed, $0.86 ROI from 117 starters. On turf, he is 4-83 with an ROI of $0.39.

pointman 07-02-2013 12:24 PM

I don't know if he has over 100 starters, but I would not be surprised if Rusty Arnold is one of the sub par guys.

NTamm1215 07-02-2013 12:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by pointman (Post 933794)
I don't know if he has over 100 starters, but I would not be surprised if Rusty Arnold is one of the sub par guys.

From his 41 dirt starters, Arnold's ROI is $0.48!

pointman 07-02-2013 12:30 PM

Rick Violette one of the sub par guys?

MaTH716 07-02-2013 12:45 PM

Hasn't Wesley Ward burned up alot of money at the Spa?

Ocala Mike 07-02-2013 01:03 PM

out of town trainers at saratogs
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 933721)

Jack Fisher

Ssh, you're killing my exacta prices. Always catch this guy up there for a couple of big ones every year.

:$::$::$::$:

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-02-2013 01:07 PM

tom voss or john Morrison ?

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-02-2013 01:09 PM

its funny some years the ky trainers cant buy a win..its all in the trends

Conrad 07-02-2013 01:55 PM

What about Glenn DiSanto?
Dude wins about six races a year but always wins at least one at Sar, usually at huge odds.

Richie Schosberg is dangerous early in the meet - check out how he does with his first starter of the meet every year.

blackthroatedwind 07-02-2013 02:03 PM

Nick's "100 Starters" seems to have thrown a lot of people.

NTamm1215 07-02-2013 02:38 PM

The other two sub-$1.00 ROI guys who have 100 or more starters are Nick Zito ($0.87) and Bruce Brown ($0.61).

Wesley Ward has an ROI of $0.88 with all 2YO starters over the last 5 years at Saratoga, which is a pretty dreadful number.

pweizer 07-02-2013 02:56 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 933810)
The other two sub-$1.00 ROI guys who have 100 or more starters are Nick Zito ($0.87) and Bruce Brown ($0.61).

Wesley Ward has an ROI of $0.88 with all 2YO starters over the last 5 years at Saratoga, which is a pretty dreadful number.

That is because they don't card four and a half furlong races for him.

Paul

RockHardTen1985 07-02-2013 04:59 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ocala Mike (Post 933802)
Ssh, you're killing my exacta prices. Always catch this guy up there for a couple of big ones every year.

:$::$::$::$:


I'm a big fan

TheSpyder 07-04-2013 08:14 AM

Siacca! At least one bomb.

jrajf 07-08-2013 09:26 AM

roy lerman
 
Always brings at least one surprise package at ridiculous odds

hoovesupsideyourhead 07-08-2013 10:06 AM

juan ortiz

NTamm1215 07-08-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by parsixfarms (Post 933739)
Steve Margolis will not have a string here this summer.

Watch for Merrill Scherer in claiming races.

Had no idea until you posted this that Margolis' record at Saratoga was so bad. He was 1-34 over the last five years with a $0.24 ROI.

NTamm1215 07-08-2013 11:17 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by jrajf (Post 934422)
Always brings at least one surprise package at ridiculous odds

Got that right. He is just 4-53 going back to '08, but those four have all paid well. Most recent bomber was Presumptive on opening day 2012.

pweizer 07-08-2013 11:51 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NTamm1215 (Post 934430)
Got that right. He is just 4-53 going back to '08, but those four have all paid well. Most recent bomber was Presumptive on opening day 2012.

Wouldn't you find similar numbers at every race meet for Lerman or Ortiz? Or for every low percentage trainer for that matter? When someone wins so few races, the winners almost have to pay well, don't they?

Paul

Ocala Mike 07-19-2013 03:37 PM

out of town trainers at saratoga
 
Quote:

Originally Posted by RockHardTen1985 (Post 933721)

Jack Fisher

Didn't take him long, did it? What do we do the rest of the meeting?

12 Short Shrift Solis Alex O. 122 30.40 12.00 8.70
1 Nineinthenine Prado Edgar S. 122 5.50 3.90
9 Dual Citizen Rosario Joel 122 5.40


Wager Type Payoff Winning Numbers Pool
$2 Daily Double $214.00 12-12 $284,808
$2 Exacta $193.00 12-1 $390,505
$2 Quinella $90.00 1-12 $26,749
$2 Superfecta $6,834.00 12-1-9-4 $91,842
$2 Trifecta $1,347.00 12-1-9 $176,631
Owner: Michael J. Moran
Trainer: Jack O. Fisher
Breeder: W Lazy T Limited (KY)


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